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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    It is not the fan who decides what the story is. It is the creator of the story. The fan only tries to understand it. But that doesn't mean he/her is right. It is possible. But he/her doesn't have to be right.
    But no one is claiming to be right. People are merely saying, "Well, I saw it as..." and then a hammer of "Well, you're wrong, because the Ultimania says" comes down and takes all of the fun out of discussing initial interpretations.

    Okay, I'm wrong. I'm a wrong little wrongster from wrong-land. But if I want to discuss how I viewed the game when I first played it before all this extra stuff came around, I WILL. Because it's fun.

    Also, this objective vomiting of an answer to every question in the game that Square is doing robs the video game of the "video game is art" stance. Completely and horrifically.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Clo View Post
    But no one is claiming to be right.
    Probably you don't. But other people do. And because of them I do answer. If I don't other people who don't know that much about Final Fantasy think "Mhh, he writes this and that and no one answers. Perhaps he is right!". And other people who write wrong things about Final Fantasy insist on it being right - that's why I post here. Because I don't want them to force other people to think they are right. And of course to show what I know - but that's not the main reason.

    @ForsakenLover: In my post there is no opinion of mine. It is the truth.

    And Clo, it seems you really know nothing about Final Fantasy if you really think an argument based on Square's own words is invalid.
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    I feel I can offer a nice perspective on all this as I'm basically what Sephiroth is accusing everyone in here with a different opinion than his of being. See, I once gladly ignored the Compilation and thought my ideas were right.

    I did this out of love for my first ever Final Fantasy. I wanted FFVII to remain as it was - perfect.

    But alas, we must all grow up and realize this world we live in sucks.

    So the Ultimania does exist. Advent Children does exist. Crisis Core does exist.
    I think everyone in this thread acknowledges their existence and validity.

    But then again, we also know of the Prequel Trilogy. Star Wars fans have to accept midichlorians exist too.

    It has nothing to do with thinking your opinion is more correct than the "canon' one. It has to do with wishing to preserve, if only in a pretend fantasy world, something of beauty.
    Fantasy is always preferable to reality and the fantasy that Crisis Core doesn't exist is one that I love.

    The only good thing to come out of the Compilation was Cloud's outfit in AC. Pretty sexy. Not a huge fan of the shades but they were okay.

    In the end, let everyone think what they want to think. Enjoy what they want to enjoy.

    Also, champagne supernova, you the one from Naruto Forums?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover View Post
    Also, champagne supernova, you the one from Naruto Forums?
    As I don't really know what you're talking about, I'll assume no

    But yeah, our final fantasy (what a lame pun) is that these things did not exist. We know they exist. But we'll just play pretend.

    And agree with Clo on the whole games are art vibe. You can't keep on spewing out answers on something if you want it to be considered art. Art is basically the fusion of the creator's work and the viewer's opinion of it. The viewer is just as active a player in the creation of art as the maker.

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    Though, to be sure, I think the argument of the validity and nature of the Compilation is a good one. Because both sides have justified reasons for saying yes and no - hence a good argument, that could produce interesting conversations.

    I'm just afraid to make a thread on these forums, haha. People seem to get so angry. Though it's not quite as bad as the FFXIII hatred that's hopping around.


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