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    Daniel, if this is getting “annoying,” then like any other topic you are free not to read it. You’ve posted in this thread while leaving it open for the past day, and the amount of responses, including feedback from regular members, has only increased. I don’t see how you can justify closing it now, so I’m reopening it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shlup
    Things Raistlin is unable to grasp:

    1) Saying what you think his statements imply is not the same as accusing him of saying those things and is not an attempt to quote him, it's simply saying how the things he did say make you feel about his perspective. In this case, that the contestants aren't smart enough to make their own choices. (eg, "Freya: I’m not going to get into this with you, but you don’t seem to understand really what’s going on or what’s actually been said.")
    Saying that you think how I am saying certain things implies something else is all well and good, but when I later qualify stating that I expressly did not mean that, then you argument becomes baseless, and you start your arguments against your imaginary friend, which is what you have done throughout this thread.

    And I never said ANYTHING remotely like the contestants aren’t “smart enough to make their own choices,” and with that out-of-nowhere statement you just prove again you have a substantial ass to pull things out of. Your example of my statement to Freya also expressly ignores any sort of context, such as THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE when I say it looks like she hasn’t read the thread (and also ignores the fact that mere ignorance is not by itself a bad thing). It also has nothing to do at all with your previous statement.

    2) Not getting an answer that supports his his theories, not getting the answers he wants, is not the same as not getting an answer at all. Accusing a person of just plain not answering doesn't make it true; sometimes you just have to accept the answers you are given.
    I also never said that I never received an answer – I said you gave vague and contradictory answers. And I did accept some of the answers I was given: I accepted the uncontradicted validity of Del’s original statement about Breine. Your attempts to justify it have since been confusing, at best. I understand if you never agreed with the staff’s decision regarding Breine in the first place (which is what it sure seems like here), but then don’t try to back it up by selectively ignoring complaints and adding in your own weaker ones.

    3) "(which is what Del said and Shlup contradicted)" should read "(which is what Shlup said and Del contradicted)"
    I am sorry my statement seemed to imply an arguably false timestamp of statements, but again you’re ignoring the substance of the statement: that you and Del said continually and blatantly contradictory things.

    Quote Originally Posted by PuPu
    But this goes back to what Raistlin said, that if all of you knew that you didn't have a chance of winning, you wouldn't have done this competition. I know you're all having fun, but you all didn't do the competition for the purpose of having fun.
    So far you are the only other regular member here even attempting to view this objectively. I think some of the members are just wary of criticizing the staff at all, especially during the competition.
    Last edited by Raistlin; 03-26-2010 at 10:40 PM.

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