Mandy when will you learn, these are just the debates in the end it'll all come down to votes, argue as much as you like and you can still bloody loose... for a reference just look at the Liberal Democrats in UK politics, they talk the talk at times (at others they just chat ), but they'll never win a general election it is always going to come down to Conservatives vs Labour has been like that for well, forever there has never to my knowledge been a Lib Dem government in power.