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    It wouldn't really be a big deal at all now that they are always adding the ability to skip cutsceens. I was pleased that I could skip the sappy scenes with Snow and Serah, so I imagine I would just do the same.

    I'm also going with 100% BS on this one.

    though I bet with would be met with vehement resistance, especially from the religious right in the USA. :/
    We all know that if you put the revelation far enough into the game none of them will ever get there Just think of the uproar that would be heard if they realized how corrupt churches are generally portrayed in JRPGs.
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    Damn, I was excited that this could be true at first. I mean, there was some lesbionics going on in FF:CC:EoT . . . but . . . nope, lame April Fool's Joke.

    And to those who say "I don't wanna see two guys making out in my videogames" . . . well, just because he's gay doesn't mean you WOULD have to see it. And even if you did, would it kill you? Or are you really that insecure about your supposed heterosexuality? I'm bombarded on a daily basis with girls kissing guys, which I'd rather not see, but it's EVERYWHERE. One little kiss between two guys isn't going to destroy you to see.

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    And you all say you are not Homophobes, but most of you do seem it.
    How so? No one's said that they weren't going to play it just 'cause he's gay. Is it homophobic that we'd rather not see guys kissing?
    Well some of people showed disgust at the idea and FYI, the guy who started this post did. So don't act like I'm making stuff.
    So now it's homophobe to not play a game with a gay main character in it? I have no interest in a game like that, no, because it's not up to my preferences, has nothing to do with my view on things. It's not disgust, it's disinterest. There's a difference. Same as I won't play Resonance of Fate because it's all about guns.

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    I don't think there is anything wrong with choosing to not immerse oneself in something one knows he or she would not enjoy. I like porn, but I don't watch male-on-male porn, because I do not find it appealing visually or emotionally.

    Homophobia comes in when you have a fear, even a subconscious one, that subjecting oneself to (depictions of) homosexuality might somehow turn one gay. Extreme homophobes would take that to its logical extreme and say that it should be banned for the "good of society" or somesuch.

    Anyway, just as not playing a game with a homosexual character doesn't make you a homophobe, playing a game with a homosexual character doesn't make you not a homophobe. It's basically indicative of nothing in and of itself.

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    You lot are missing what I said, Gaurdian XIII said nobody will not play it cos of the the gay characters and I just pointed out you wouldn't play it Elpizo. Read more carefully next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Shot View Post
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    And you all say you are not Homophobes, but most of you do seem it.
    How so? No one's said that they weren't going to play it just 'cause he's gay. Is it homophobic that we'd rather not see guys kissing?
    Well some of people showed disgust at the idea and FYI, the guy who started this post did. So don't act like I'm making stuff.
    Making stuff up? You didn't really clarify why you said it. And Elpizo is right, he never said it digusted him he just showed disinterest. You seem to be getting more out of this than what we said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elpizo View Post
    So now it's homophobe to not play a game with a gay main character in it? I have no interest in a game like that, no, because it's not up to my preferences, has nothing to do with my view on things. It's not disgust, it's disinterest. There's a difference. Same as I won't play Resonance of Fate because it's all about guns.
    There's a difference between a game having a homosexual character, whether it is the lead or not, and being about homosexuality. I think the issue arises because your interest in a game changed based on the character's sexuality and not the content. Whereas losing interest in a game that was about homosexuality would make sense in the case of a heterosexual male, to lose interest just because a character is gay tends to be criticized more. :/

    An example, it would be more acceptable for you not to like gay fiction than if you simply did not like Harry Potter because you found out Dumbledore is gay. The latter would spark more criticism than the former.

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    I don't think there is anything wrong with choosing to not immerse oneself in something one knows he or she would not enjoy. I like porn, but I don't watch male-on-male porn, because I do not find it appealing visually or emotionally.

    Homophobia comes in when you have a fear, even a subconscious one, that subjecting oneself to (depictions of) homosexuality might somehow turn one gay. Extreme homophobes would take that to its logical extreme and say that it should be banned for the "good of society" or somesuch.

    Anyway, just as not playing a game with a homosexual character doesn't make you a homophobe, playing a game with a homosexual character doesn't make you not a homophobe. It's basically indicative of nothing in and of itself.
    How would you not enjoy it if the lead is gay? I play plenty of games with straight leads and I still enjoy the games. The character's sexuality has nothing to do with it. Truthfully, if there are explicit sexual scenes then yes, I would get uncomfortable. However, to simply say you would not enjoy a game simply because of the sexual orientation of a character is quite ludicrous, especially if it only plays a minor or incidental role. Otherwise, most gay gamers would, by your logic, not enjoy most video games with heterosexual males as a lead.

    Also, to return to what I said early about the difference between having a gay character and a game being about homosexuality. Gay porn is about the gay content, regardless of the orientation of the actors. So make the comparison between a game has a gay character and a gay pornography is really not a valid point.

    Also, it would be highly unlikely that a homophobe would play a game with a gay character. They'd likely try to ban it without ever trying to play it.


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    Hahahahaha I love all the "I'm not a homophobe but this is gross and I won't play it wah wah wah!"

    Oh man. TSoL has pretty much summed up my opinions on the whole matter. DEAL WID IT. To choose not to play a game because the lead is gay is smurfing ridic. That speaks nothing about content, gameplay, storyline (you will argue that it does because oh my god the lead is gay - but, what if they simply substitute the male love interest with a female one? same story).

    If I didn't play games with heterosexual leads because I'm gay, I would never, ever play videogames again.

    Keep telling yourself you're not a homophobe, but your justifications belie your "I am not a homophobe" spewage.

    BRB, I'm going to not play FFXIII because the main character is a female (I'm a guy oh no!) and the main love story is about Snow and Serah (ewwwwwww heterosexuality. I don't want to play that!).

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    If a game developer were to announce that a character were gay this far ahead of release it leads on to assume that it is somehow significant. So though it doesn't necessarily mean that there would be significant subject material pertaining to homosexuality it is hard to figure why the main characters sexual orientation would be news worthy if it there wasn't.

    and the main love story is about Snow and Serah (ewwwwwww heterosexuality. I don't want to play that!).
    Lol, when I found out that a love story would be central in FFXIII it seriously dampened my interest in the game.

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    There's a lot of possible reasons: controversy to boost sales, avoiding accusations of being "lied to" because they never said the character was gay, the fact that it is significant because there hasn't really been a gay male lead in a video game, it is coming from Japan (refer to earlier posts about Japanese and homosexuality) and probably more that I can't think of.


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    I don't trust that article because the trailers that have been released strongly suggest the contrary.

    And furthermore, you talk as if gay protagonists in FF games is something new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rad Bromance View Post
    I don't trust that article because the trailers that have been released strongly suggest the contrary.

    And furthermore, you talk as if gay protagonists in FF games is something new.
    Who's that?
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    Also, where does the article say that men will be kissing other men in the game? A gay character doesn't mean there's automatically going to be gay kissing.

    Every straight protagonists male isn't shown kissing a woman in his game, is he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowseye View Post
    I don't think there is anything wrong with choosing to not immerse oneself in something one knows he or she would not enjoy. I like porn, but I don't watch male-on-male porn, because I do not find it appealing visually or emotionally.
    Nice, equating porn/adult sexual content to a character that has a possibility [however doubtful] of being gay when on-screen romance would most likely be extremely limited if not non-existent. I can see how this is relevant 100% good analogy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elpizo View Post
    Interest in the game: -200% (And before you scream homophobe, people can be gay as much as they want, but that doesn't mean I have to like it in the games I play.)
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    So now it's homophobe to not play a game with a gay main character in it? I have no interest in a game like that, no, because it's not up to my preferences, has nothing to do with my view on things. It's not disgust, it's disinterest. There's a difference. Same as I won't play Resonance of Fate because it's all about guns.
    Don't kid yourself, it's homophobia. It doesn't matter if it's an April Fool's joke or not. If you're so offended/terrified by such petty and insignificant things like a character happening to be gay, then you can't claim you're not homophobic.

    You basically implied that you would've had interested in playing the game before [given your eagerness of stating that -200% bit], yet you're willing to drop the entire game which might actually be good, over this one single insignificant fact of the main character possibly being gay. There likely wouldn't even be any on-screen romance even if this was true, only implied stuff, though this doesn't really seem to have any relevance to you. You're free to have your opinion of course, but that doesn't prevent me from saying "you need to grow up and get the smurf over it, you squeamish little princess". I play video games ALL THE TIME with straight male leads, and occasionally female leads, and it's never something I've complained about [for the record I'm gay, so you understand the significance in me pointing something like that out]. I see MOVIES all the time with straight romance in it - constantly. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's minor insignificant stuff that isn't really important and has little impact on the game itself. I think this is just petty/morbid fear of something showing its ugly head and being enough to divert you from something that could potentially be a very enjoyable game.

    That said, I'm with everyone that this might be a joke. However, if it were true, that'd be kinda cool.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rad Bromance View Post
    Also, where does the article say that men will be kissing other men in the game? A gay character doesn't mean there's automatically going to be gay kissing.

    Every straight protagonists male isn't shown kissing a woman in his game, is he?
    That's true. And don't kid yourself, he's terrified of the notion and is willing to avoid the game entirely based on that one single [and unconfirmed] fact. That is homophobia.

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    Hahahahaha I love all the "I'm not a homophobe but this is gross and I won't play it wah wah wah!"

    Oh man. TSoL has pretty much summed up my opinions on the whole matter. DEAL WID IT. To choose not to play a game because the lead is gay is smurfing ridic. That speaks nothing about content, gameplay, storyline (you will argue that it does because oh my god the lead is gay - but, what if they simply substitute the male love interest with a female one? same story).

    If I didn't play games with heterosexual leads because I'm gay, I would never, ever play videogames again.

    Keep telling yourself you're not a homophobe, but your justifications belie your "I am not a homophobe" spewage.

    BRB, I'm going to not play FFXIII because the main character is a female (I'm a guy oh no!) and the main love story is about Snow and Serah (ewwwwwww heterosexuality. I don't want to play that!).
    Hey looks like we finally agree on something XD *high fives*

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    This thread is silly.

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