Agreed. It was a poor example given the discussion. My point was about subjecting oneself to something one knows he or she doesn't enjoy. Certainly a game having a gay character does not mean it is about the gay content as you say. However, you imply that the mere presence of something that one knows negatively affects ones enjoyment is not a valid reason not to partake of it. People don't partake in entertainment containing persons or ideas they don't enjoy all the time, even when said entertainment is not about those persons or ideas. (see further down)Also, to return to what I said early about the difference between having a gay character and a game being about homosexuality. Gay porn is about the gay content, regardless of the orientation of the actors. So make the comparison between a game has a gay character and a gay pornography is really not a valid point.
(1) I made no claim as to whether a homophobe would play the game or not. I merely said that playing a game with a homosexual character does not make you not a homophobe.Also, it would be highly unlikely that a homophobe would play a game with a gay character. They'd likely try to ban it without ever trying to play it.
If somebody claims "I played vXIII even though it had a gay character, so I'm not a homophobe," I would consider it roughly equivalent to the statement "I watch NBA basketball, so I'm not a racist." IOW it's a vacuous claim that proves nothing, regardless of how much FF fans want to believe that games are substitutes for real life.
(2) I maintain that not everybody who is homophobic identifies themselves as a homophobe, or realizes that they are one. That is, in part the problem here. You seem to be implying that homophobes are monsters who crusade to rid the world of homosexuality. It's not that black and white. Just as racism can manifest in something as little as bringing one's purse up to communion in church when one would not otherwise because a black family is in the same pew, homophobia can be as subtle as scooting away from a guy with pink hair and pierced ears on the subway.
I'm not sure why you felt the need to personally attack me. Let's review:How would you not enjoy it if the lead is gay? I play plenty of games with straight leads and I still enjoy the games. The character's sexuality has nothing to do with it. Truthfully, if there are explicit sexual scenes then yes, I would get uncomfortable. However, to simply say you would not enjoy a game simply because of the sexual orientation of a character is quite ludicrous, especially if it only plays a minor or incidental role. Otherwise, most gay gamers would, by your logic, not enjoy most video games with heterosexual males as a lead.
"...choosing to not immerse oneself in something one knows he or she would not enjoy."
"Oneself" and "he or she," not "myself" and "I."
I NEVER said that I -- personally -- would not play the game. In fact, I would never say that because I -- personally -- have no problem playing a gay character. I -- personally -- think it would be interesting to see a story with one functioning as the main character. And I -- personally -- would be content if vXIII went that route. I was defending the choice of those who said they don't think they would enjoy it if it had a homosexual character, which I happen to think is a valid reason to not to play a game with one.
You can substitute "2-year-old," "hick," "viking," "Leonardo di Caprio," and "raging feminist" for "homosexual" -- if it's presence inhibits your enjoyment of something meant to be entertaining, why would you choose to subject yourself to it?
Anyway, is homophobia logical? Personally, I don't think so -- phobias are (generally) not -- but that doesn't mean people who are homophobic don't feel what they do, and that they are not entitled to those feelings. I think, in the long run, trying to be understanding is a lot better than going around suggesting people who don't like homosexuals are stupid, worthless excuses for human beings.




