Quote Originally Posted by Crowseye View Post
I never said "immersing yourself in homosexuality."

I said "immerse oneself in something one knows he or she would not enjoy."
Yes I know, however this stems off the notion of Elpizo refusing to play the game because Noctis might [thought doubtfully] be gay. Hence my using your words in that context. I just put in "homosexuality" there because in this case for him, that would be the "something he knows he wouldn't enjoy" part.

Quote Originally Posted by Crowseye View Post
Now you appear to be backtracking on your initial response in order to continue trying to fight with me, because you decided you don't like me...believing me to be a homophobe when I am actually far closer to your side than theirs.
Okay well I consider this to be actually putting words in someone's mouth, or just misunderstanding. I might be poking at your words, however they're directed mostly at Elpizo [which is why I'm saying his name often]. I'm not really mentioning you aside from quoting your words.

Quote Originally Posted by Crowseye View Post
I find hatred despicable no matter who it is directed toward.
If someone murders my mother, I'm going to hate them. Doesn't matter. I find it to be a justifiable hatred because it was blatant harm [which I find unacceptable]. Now, this isn't murder obviously, but it's someone that's showing apparent disgust at the notion of a video game possibly having one of "my kind" in it. So yes, don't expect me to like said person. That's ridiculous. I don't understand why you expect me to actually like homophobes, when I'm gay.

And by the way [this is directed at Elpizo], I'm not accepting this "disinterested" trash. It's misuse of the word. Being disinterested in something implies impartiality and indifference - ie. something along the lines of "eh, doesn't matter if he's gay or not". However, that is not the case here. The case is - "Wow, a gay male lead? -200% interest - screw that".

–adjective
1.
unbiased by personal interest or advantage; not influenced by selfish motives
Quote Originally Posted by Crowseye View Post
Again, you are raging over nothing, taking things out of context and trying create an argument that doesn't exist because you believed me to be a homophobe and therefore felt the need to dispute everything I wrote.
I didn't think you were a homophobe, just Elpizo. By the way, I think you started writing this post a really long time ago, because you misquoted me [not on purpose]. I changed this portion of my post a long time ago because I didn't write what I want to say correctly, probably after you had already started writing. Anyways, the point of this argument of course is to show how I believe his reasoning for not wanting to play the game is based on homophobia. I repeat - it has nothing to do with you, which is why I mention his name in my post, and not yours. I'm attacking the possible defense for him, yes, but it's ultimately only aimed at Elpizo. There's a difference. Your post last page stated that you wouldn't mind and that you'd actually find a gay character interesting or whatever, so obviously I acknowledge that you aren't really homophobic.


Quote Originally Posted by Crowseye View Post
I never said I didn't think Elpizo was a homophobe. I never mentioned him at all in fact.
Yes, I know that. That portion of the post wasn't even directed at you. It's directed at Elpizo. Again, I merely attacked the notion of playing a game with a gay character being "immersing yourself in homosexuality", which in this case "homosexuality" would be the "thing you don't enjoy", hence my using that line.

Short version: I think you misinterpreted most of my post as attacking you, when most of it was actually against Elpizo.