Funny and slamming review lmao.

[Madame Adequate]

Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch - Television Tropes & Idioms

[seiferalmasy2]

I think paradigms don't save it tbh esp since 20 hours of the game are very limited.

I am not debating the story because I don't know it, only the basic outline and the basic presenttation both of which I hate but I don't know enough about the story to form an argument.

[arcanedude34]

Well how do you know the presentation if you don't know the story? Assuming you're just getting your "facts" from negative reviews, then?

[seiferalmasy2]

I am getting the overall flavour of it from people on this forum, from reading tons of reviews, including positive ones (which generally mention graphics at every opportunity)

and of course I know about how it presents itself graphically because I have seen numerous cutscenes and playthroughs on youtube.

[demondude]

the video quality on youtube is not nearly as good as it would be on a HDTV, which most people will play the game on.

[arcanedude34]

I am getting the overall flavour of it from people on this forum, from reading tons of reviews, including positive ones (which generally mention graphics at every opportunity)

You just lost all credibility to me then if you aren't experiencing it firsthand by at least watching the game all the way through.

Point in case, I was one of the many people who blindly started bashing FFVIII after watching Spoony's review, as well as a few other reviews. Playing it for myself currently, I have a totally different opinion of it than I did a month ago.

I encourage you to try playing it if you're going to be posting so much about it. You may still hate it, but at least you'll be giving your own opinions rather than just regurgitating what other reviewers said.

[seiferalmasy2]

the video quality on youtube is not nearly as good as it would be on a HDTV, which most people will play the game on.

The youtube quality can be up to 1080p and 720p and I ahve watched some of them in that quality. The quality of the game graphically is not in question. The graphics are amazing, but this isn't a question of graphics, I hold graphics personally as the least important thing about a game.

And as I have said, I am NOT DEBATING THE STORY ITSELF. I CANNOT DO THAT WITHOUT PLAYING THE GAME ALL THE WAY THROUGH. Which I have no intention of doing cause it is .

[demondude]

I've given up hope. I am going to spam images and macros whenever he says anything now to suppress the horrible whining. Must of been caused by a rough childhood or something.

[seiferalmasy2]

I've given up hope. I am going to spam images and macros whenever he says anything now to suppress the horrible whining. Must of been caused by a rough childhood or something.

Personal attacks anyone, as opposed to constructive debate? A sure sign of a losing debate...

[Slothy]

Oh, and for the record, yes you do end up hitting auto-battle a lot. The fun comes in assigning your paradigms and deciding which is the most useful for the current situation. In a lot of respects, this makes it the most tactical Final Fantasy in the main series yet, save perhaps X-2.

I'd have to disagree with that. Paradigms are essentially a way of telling your characters to focus on one type of ability (whether it be normal attacking abilities, attack magic, white magic etc.) and hoping the AI is smart enough to do the right thing more often than not (which it is most of the time). Unfortunately, up until Chapter 7 where I am now, it's never gotten more involved than all out attack for a bit, switch to a defensive paradigm to heal, then back to all out attack. If a battle is taking too long I might throw in some support abilities as well, and hope the AI doesn't keep throwing out ice resistance buffs against enemies with no ice attacks instead of protect or shell (I've had it do something along those lines before).

It's a neat system in theory, but that's because it's pretty much FFX-2's dress sphere switching system. Unfortunately, the AI and the lack of options for a big chunk of the game really gets in the way of any potential for truly deep strategy.

[demondude]

I've given up hope. I am going to spam images and macros whenever he says anything now to suppress the horrible whining. Must of been caused by a rough childhood or something.

Personal attacks anyone, as opposed to constructive debate? A sure sign of a losing debate...

I was never debating anything.

[Flying Arrow]

Let's not use the tired out tactic of attacking the person rather than their argument.

I'm not attacking you. I'm pointing out that your argument is flawed, ignorant, and misinformed.

You are still doing it. Care to enlighten us on what I have said in my recent post which is inaccurate? Care to tell me what XIII has compared to X and the things I listed? If I am spreading misinformation then here is your chance to set the record straight....address the points I have just made?

I'd swear you're just trolling, but you spend more time posting than any other member I've seen for this just to be a laugh for you. I've made my points. Go back and read the posts. I'm not going to outline to you what you're wrong about.

[arcanedude34]

I'd have to disagree with that. Paradigms are essentially a way of telling your characters to focus on one type of ability (whether it be normal attacking abilities, attack magic, white magic etc.) and hoping the AI is smart enough to do the right thing more often than not (which it is most of the time). Unfortunately, up until Chapter 7 where I am now, it's never gotten more involved than all out attack for a bit, switch to a defensive paradigm to heal, then back to all out attack. If a battle is taking too long I might throw in some support abilities as well, and hope the AI doesn't keep throwing out ice resistance buffs against enemies with no ice attacks instead of protect or shell (I've had it do something along those lines before).

It's a neat system in theory, but that's because it's pretty much FFX-2's dress sphere switching system. Unfortunately, the AI and the lack of options for a big chunk of the game really gets in the way of any potential for truly deep strategy.

It does get a bit better, but if it's not your cup of tea by then, then it probably wont be by the end of the game. =\

Sefier, if you're not debating story, then why did you specifically say that it's ? Troll, much? *waits for him to get all pissy and start whining about how I'm attacking him so I MUST know he's right despite not knowing what he's talking about at all*

[demondude]

*snip* Once again, no. You know this isn't acceptable here. ~ Rye

[seiferalmasy2]

Let's not use the tired out tactic of attacking the person rather than their argument.

I'm not attacking you. I'm pointing out that your argument is flawed, ignorant, and misinformed.

You are still doing it. Care to enlighten us on what I have said in my recent post which is inaccurate? Care to tell me what XIII has compared to X and the things I listed? If I am spreading misinformation then here is your chance to set the record straight....address the points I have just made?

I'd swear you're just trolling, but you spend more time posting than any other member I've seen for this just to be a laugh for you. I've made my points. Go back and read the posts. I'm not going to outline to you what you're wrong about.

I will take your repeated refusals to debate the subject and the points I made to mean that I am actually quite accurate in what I have said. You have had plenty of chance to take my points 1 by 1 and counter them but you refuse to. Your argument is weak.