Originally Posted by
Election Booth
EoFF and Pranks:
Originally Posted by
Zombie Party
The Zombie Party is of the opinion that pranks on Eyes on FF are bitchin'. They're a fun way to mix things up a little and cause wacky situations. However, not all pranks are appropriate for EoFF. Here are all the types of pranks that we feel are best kept off the forums:
- Pranks that smurfing suck.
Like, for example, Raistlin's recent prank. His grand scheme to destroy the staff was to pretend to post porn and get them to consider whether or not they should ban him. JOKE'S ON THEM, HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY POST IT!!!! In order to accomplish this goal, he spent countless hours typing out long, whiny debating posts, indistinguishable from the usual crap he spews, which were largely ignored. The effort he put in really doesn't match the payoff he got for it, and after his General Chat gloating thread, it all became a toe-curling and awkward affair.
For reference, THIS is Raistlin:
Just imagine this vile, sweaty man, cackling away to himself as he hammers out another post decrying the staff. Go on. Do it. And then tell me that utterly dire pranks like the one he pulled should be allowed. If you're still on the fence about this, let me just give you the quote that accompanies this photo:
"I tried to look hot/slutty cupping my perky boobs and giving a kissy face"
I rest my case.
Okay, great, but you didn't really answer anything. What I got from your post was that only pranks that do not suck should be allowed. What's your criteria for not sucking? You can't just bring in a qualifier and not say anything about it. You've got to elaborate on it more. All you gave was one, sweeping statement, and a post that was made up of an image of Raistlin.
You've told us that Raistlin has a paradigm of pranks, but what if we don't agree? What exactly is the stance that you believe in? It's perfectly reasonable that the second part of your post contradicts the first part of your post. It's not at all clear what we should be supporting about Raistlin, which to be frank, does not even answer the question. In the way you've inserted Raistlin into your argument, it is completely irrelevant to the core of your argument.
Nice try, but you're not convincing anyone. And to be even more forward, that image was as pointless as your post. Learn not to suck, or at least, follow up on your statements. This argument could have been so much more of, you know, an
argument.
Originally Posted by
501st Party
Ok, wow; sorry everybody, it’s just a little bit hard to rebut arguments when none are really made, but the 501st will do our best. From what we can gather in that horrible excuse for an argument, the Zombie Party seem to think that “pranks on Eyes on FF are bitchin’” and are trying to argue that they should be a part of the forums, unless they involve raistlin posing in his bikini.
We at the 501st think that with all the recent heart ache and stress that the latest run of pranks have caused that the Zombie Party wouldn’t be so quick to jump to the defence of malicious and hurtful pranks, many of which are little more than an inside joke done to a much larger scale. Although it is obvious that some pranks are completely harmless and can be a fun little event for the forum (examples being name and set changes), the majority of large scale pranks tend to cause more anger, stress and butt-hurt than humour
Exhibit A shows the temporary March spike in activity as users were forced to post in the name of a fake CK competition, before finally realising they'd been duped; causing wide spread butt-hurt, anger, and a general decline in enjoyment.
It’s all well and good for the members who are in on the joke (or suspect something is going on) to sit back and have a chuckle, but EoFF has a large community that expands every day, and a large number of the pranks that are done create a tumultuous forum environment, that can confuse and push away not only new members, but also long time members. In the latest pranks to occur (‘CK comp’ and ‘angry long posts by raistlin are angry and long’) most of the people on the forum were fed up with reading the thousands of lines worth of text that were being posted in the feedback forum, long before the prank was due to be revealed. Not only that, but the staff themselves have admitted that it was cruel to make the latter half of the ‘potential CKs’ do all that work (mountains of posts and threads, which actually served to annoy almost as many people as they amused).
Exhibit B is a little diddy we at 501st HQ like to call ADMISSION OF GUILT!!
The latest pranks had many people angry during the time they were being done, and even during the aftermath. Mogi is but one example of a person who didn’t really see the ‘APRIL FOOLS GUYS, lololol’ side of the joke. We in the 501st legion have heard stories from some of our new recruits about how they were really quite confused about what was going on in the forum, and if we hadn’t given them neat matching uniforms and structure then they may not have stuck around for the long run. Also, let's not forget that in the latest prank the members of EoFF (a large grouping of which are under 18) were exposed to porn, all in the name of some personal vendetta that one member shared against the staff. If that isn't the epitome of a prank going to far, then what is?
Exhibit C: What the Shlup!? They are lying to us!!!
But the latest prank isn't the only time that these 'harmless jokes' have ended in problems. The lucky bags are an example of pranks that have caused rifts in the member base. In the most recent of these events one of the evil zombie members (RottingYuna89) turned on one of her own staff members and had him banned. Needless to say, hurt feelings and a large member rift ensued.
We’re not saying that the pranks aren’t funny for people, because as we said, there is a very large cross section at EoFF, and not everyone reacts the same way. But when we have staff and long time members warring with each other in the name of lulz, showing a divided front to new and old members alike, making dedicated posters jump through hoops for no reason, then we feel that you may as well just join the 501st...because the whole forum has obviously succumbed to the dark side already.
You know, my junior year history teacher once told me that if you use exhibits or references, they should be sparse, and more on the analysis side. And use a better forum skin. The aerisboob scheme sucks.
Pranks are obvious? Since when? As far as I know, they're deliberate attempts made on a person's or a group's ego for the sake of personal amusement. That puts the pulling party into the position of the one that knows. Why, it's not obvious at all. At least you're right about pranks having downsides.
Where is this chart's source? You can't just draw lines around to prove your point. You fail statistics forever. Count your lucky stars that you at least made your x-axis clear, or else I would be deducting points like an exam printed on red paper.
Your argument brings up a compelling point that not everyone sees pranks as pranks, and that more often than not, the prank gets a little old halfway through. Additionally, you've brought up the point of potentially causing a communal schism, which I don't think I have to point out (but will), is precisely the opposite of what a community wants.
I do have to ask, just who managed to get banned by Rye? For all of your exhibit use, it's a little suspicious that you'd omit this reference.
Goddamnit, advertisement plugs.
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Originally Posted by
Zombie Party
The elections are supposed to be fun. A time for laughter and merriment. So to that end we've played a few harmless pranks on our rivals, such as changing their user names, renaming threads, and killing them 687 times. Okay, maybe that last one wasn't so harmless, but the point stands!
It's not at all surprising that the 501st Party are trying to criticise pranks when they themselves flip out at the slightest provocation. They take even the tiniest thing DEADLY SERIOUSLY, bless their ragin' little hearts, and it's just so
adorable! Don't believe me? Behold, the gallery of elections whining:
BONUS GALLERY: NorthernChaosWookiee dies 687 times. Despite all his rage, he is still just a rat in a cage.
(SPOILER)
Now, while it is pretty hilarious to the rest of us watching you all get really butthurt about all the silly little pranks we pull on you, it's probably not healthy! So let us get now to the point of all of this, and end with a piece of advice for our dear sweet opponents who allow themselves to get all worked up over the internet:
Enjoy, you big babies!
What is the point of your post? You seem to be putting the reactions of the other party on the spotlight, even though the question is about pranks, not general events. I love the ad hominem attack at the end. Here's a better one: you suck. Why should I care that you killed him 687 times? For all we know, he could have killed you over 9000 times, and you're trying to impress us by numbers. It doesn't work that way. If you present numbers, you've got to present some of the opposing party's numbers as well, even if they're falsified. At least
try to fake it.
This round goes to the 501st, for having a more compelling argument. Well, that's actually not true. They get this round for having an argument in the first place. I was just trying to be nice. Then I changed my mind.