Yeah, kinda noticed...No, I'm not FE - I'm just his fan.
That's all there is to it.However, it could easily just be just Square reusing sprites, I don't doubt that, I'm sure it's done all the time.
What he "discovered" are only glitches and bugs present in every game. You can't build a theory from them.Second: The fact I deliberatly put quotes around the word "hints" is my way of saying that they probably aren't hints, just what someone has taken to be a hint - in this case FE, he saw/thought he saw Ellone appear during that scene on the spaceship (when it's meant to be Rinoa) and it either helped him with a theory he already had, or inspired him to start one - I don't know the exact order he "discovered" everything.
Sorry, but that is exactly how I think he does it. And the game is not "hinting" anything at all. You people have to get over it.The same goes with FE, whether he is right or wrong he doesn't just wake up one morning and go "Oh, I'll just go on EoFF and type a load of stuff about Rinoa and Ellone being the same person, and then I'll throw in that all the locations are on different times, and the color check confirms this!" - he actually draws these conclusion by studying the game, and what it *might* be hinting.
Exactly. That's all there is to it.... and like you said it could easily be that Rinoa and Ellone had the same sprite to begin with, and since Square wouldn't be using the "full" design of Rinoa to create to "ghost" effect, on the other hand it could just be Rinoa all the way through, and me and FE got confused because they look similar.
You're terribly wrong about the last part, but I'm not even going to bother.In my opinion R=U is less plausible than FE's theories because it doesn't EVEN have a basis on hair and clothes (Rinoa and Ultimecia neither dress similar, act similar, nor look the same) even though FE based E=R on more than just their looks, whoever came up R=U based it on the fact that they are after each other in the ending - that's it!
I haven't because it's not even worth mentioning.I will admit that the S=G theory (which you haven't mentioned) is more plausible
Finally! Something we can both agree with. Griever is Squall's creation: his incarnation of every value he holds in the highest regard: pride, strenght, courage (remember his fixation for lions, that is why Griever looks like one).but I don't think he *is* Squall, but I do think he's "part" of Squall, indeed if you scan him it says "In Squall's mind..." I think he's the personification of Squall's depression and general "I'm alone" emotion - this is supported by the fact that in the ending Squall returns to the place where he is fought - once again, I could be completly wrong.
Also, I have always believed that Ultimecia "stole" the idea of Griever from Squall's mind, gave it life (it's implied that Sorceresses are able to give "life" to inanimated objects. Look at Krysta's scan.) and corrupted it to use as a weapon against Squall and his friends.
Imagine what Squall must have felt the instant Griever appeared before them. That is a low blow, if you ask me.
No. I know who Hyne and Vascaroon are. What I was reffering to was the names he chose for the rulers, kings, or whatever of Centra. I can't find the thread for the life of me, but I remember it was something that resembled the names of the main characters, but spelled differently and with added words like "von" or something along those lines (to look "cool" obviously.)Do you mean names like "Hyne" and "Vascaroon"? Those names are used in the game.
Yeah, we do. The game doesn't call her "the calamity from the skies" for nothing.We know a weaker meteor fell from the sky, but was she on the meteor or already on "The Planet"? We don't know.
I have listened to it. And I really recommend a remix made by a group named SHADE. The album is called: GUARVAIL: FInal Fantasy Heavy Metal arrange album. It's pretty cool.Of course I realize now I was way off the mark, but that's what I thought at the time. (NOTE: The song's called "The Extreme" if you want to listen to it.)
Sorry, no luck in that department.Well hopefully by now I've mangaged to show you that FE didn't come up with it from nowhere, he looked at things in the game and saw it that way, some of it I half saw myself. His theories may not be correct in the long run, but for the most part they make sense if you look at them from the right angle, same with the one I just mentioned - I didn't make it up as I went along, I genuinly thought that was what the game was saying, even though now, I know it wasn't.
As I said before, he's just seeing the game the way he wants but not the way it is. You don't need to elaborate such a complicated theory based on what you took as hints that weren't there to justify some technical failures you saw during the game. They don't need to be justified because they're not implying anything else. It's a mistake from either the programmers, or the graphic system or even the display capabilities from the PS. That's it.
Besides, if he truly applied the Occam's Razor as it was meant to be, he wouldn't have the need to go beyond what the game presents us (entities must not be multiplied beyond neccessity).
Let's take Ultimecia for example. We don't know who she is, if that's her real name, where she comes from, her age, etc. etc. But what we do know is that she loathes SeeD and hates people (read the script on the speech in Deling's parade. Those are Ultimecia's words, not Edea's) so much that she is going to the extent of wiping all life by compressing time, creating a world where only she could live.
Now, let's reflect a little on the Sorceress' Wars. They are a world wide event, like WWI and II were in our planet. What happens to the bad guys? The nazy are still the villains in many books, series and movies in our time. The entire world has a nasty opinion of them and it's not likely to change any time soon. Now extrapolate this concept to FFVIII. Sorceresses were already feared and hated before Ultimecia (that's why Rinoa was so disraught to know she'd turned into one), so imagine what would happen to them once Ultimecia had caused all the ruckus among the several nations.
Of course people would be terrified of them, not only because they've proved once more the destructive force they are capable of being, but also because now they know for sure that a Sorceress would raise one day to be the cruel Ultimecia and that she would be virtually unstoppable. So what would happen? Human nature at its worst: when we don't understand something, we fear it and we destroy it.
Don't go that far, it has happened before in our world. In the middle ages thousands of innocent women were tortured and slaughtered because the Church claimed they were witches. People were afraid of them and collective paranoia led to their murders. Now imagine that same situation (the human factor, if you wish to call it) in a world where actual Sorceresses with REAL, POWERFUL and DANGEROUS magic exist.
Ultimecia might have been persecuted and developed the hate for humanity she shows in the game. We don't know how she got her powers or if she was born with them, but if you consider that she was a Sorceress among fearful people who thought her dangerous, even if she wasn't at the moment, then you can see what I mean.
There is a lot more, but I don't have the time nor the energy to type it. Go read Sir Bahamut's theory (which I have poorly displayed here, really, he's magistral) and you'll get what I want to say.
Those are ideas based on more than just glitches, clothing and hair. They are based on actual facts in the game and some inherent aspects of human beings. They don't need to go beyond what is presented to us in the game, but give a deeper perspective to a character we all know and few of us understand.
That's what FE's theories lack.
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Originally Posted by Jiro
Rad bromance.
