The Orphans (spoilers)

[Future Esthar]

You kill in on an alternative timeline.

[Goldenboko]

You kill in on an alternative timeline.

I'm assuming this says, "him" in which case this is completely false because time travel isn't even slightly hinted in game.

In fact (SPOILER)Cocoon being the future of Pulse makes no sense. From all hints in game, the human population of Pulse went extinct. If anything it'd make more sense for Cocoon to be the past of Pulse, which is also inaccurate, seeing as, again, time travel is never mentioned within the storyline.

[Future Esthar]

To tell you the thruth,I am unsure which is the thruth but I am certain is one of them.

[Loony BoB]

Orphan is Orphan. Orphan is part of what powers Eden, and Eden was around since long in the past as it powers Cocoon. It was written in the story that long in the past - not the future (and there is not a hint of time travel throughout the story, so we can safely disregard any suggestion on that end) - that Cocoon was made using materials from Pulse. There is no way that Cocoon was created in any time but the past, as to say otherwise would be to render all the stories about the collection of materials and the creation of Cocoon false and pointless, effectively disregarding the plot altogether.

Orphan could not have been created at any time but the distant past when Cocoon was created or even earlier. It is therefore impossible for Orphan to be made up of humans. It should also be noted that fal'Cie are created by Gods, not by fal'Cie. Cie'th are failed l'Cie. l'Cie were created after the Gods had left. Therefore it is not possible that fal'Cie were created from Cie'th or l'Cie, as they did not exist at the time that fal'Cie were created.

Sorry dude, this theory just doesn't have anything going for it. You'd have to come up with a theory that is more in line with the plot of the story. Perhaps you should study the DataLogs for a while longer.

[Future Esthar]

(SPOILER)But that´s exactly the question.Orphan is not a Fal´Cie.
Considering Fal´Cie are corrupt and humans know about things through them I can only conclude that most of what people know is a lie.

[Loony BoB]

Orphan is a fal'Cie because it is listed as a fal'Cie under the DataLogs. This much is fact. The enemy DataLogs are accurate.

You don't need to mark spoilers in this conversation, btw, people. The title makes it clear that there are spoilers within regardless.

[Future Esthar]

They are based on information given by Fal´cie.Therefore it could be fake.

[Skyblade]

They are based on information given by Fal´cie.Therefore it could be fake.

What? Since when? What evidence is there supporting that statement.

[Loony BoB]

They are based on information given by Fal´cie.Therefore it could be fake.

That is inaccurate. The Enemy DataLogs are 100% generated by the characters.

[No.78]

I can't see the logic behind creating Cocoon and sending it back in time.

[Future Esthar]

I refer to the storyline based datalogs.Some of them keep changing based on Fal´cie information.Sometimes they even contradict previous information.We conclude therefore that either the recent information is false or the previous information is false but not both(since they are contradictory).
Conclusion:The Datalog lies at some point.

[VeloZer0]

The data log is a summary of the plot up until that point. Obviously they aren't going to give a plot twist away until the plot has actually twisted.

[Future Esthar]

But most of it is based on Fal´Cie(liers) information.

[Loony BoB]

But none of the information in the enemy DataLogs is based on fal'Cie information, it is all based on factual evidence. Orphan is listed under the fal'Cie listing. Orphan is most certainly a fal'Cie, this much is as true as saying the characters wear clothing.

[Future Esthar]

But this don´t apply to the characters and some others datalogs.