The Orphans (spoilers)

[Future Esthar]

(SPOILER)The final boss is called Orphan.
Now to something interesting:
Who are the orphans on this game?

[Goldenboko]

Main Plot And Final BossEssentially every human and Fal'Cie in this game is considered an "Orphan" of the Maker. Or at least based off of what we know of the entire Fal'Cie point of view. The Maker is the creator of Humans and Fal'Cie and by leaving them, he's essentially "Orphaned" the races to survive on their own, which makes Orphan a perfect choice for the Final Boss. Especially since the Fal'Cie are so willing to be rejoined with their creator that they're willing to attempt to use their Brethren as sacrifices.

[Future Esthar]

There is a more deeper and secret storyline GoldenBoko.
The Orphans are Lightning,Serah,Snow,Fang and Vanille.

[Goldenboko]

Yes, they are, considering they are included in that whole "human" catagory

[arcanedude34]

No, yeah, Goldenboko's right. No more crackpot theories, Funetik Esthar

[demondude]

Not content with FFVIII, FE must smurf the FFXIII forum up too. Didn't this guy even admit he was a troll?

[No.78]

I don't get it?

[Loony BoB]

There is nothing wrong with anything that Future Esthar has posted in this thread.

The orphans, of the playable characters, are correctly identified in Future Esthar's post. Obviously Serah is not playable. Other NPCs which are orphans (in the literal sense, none of the Maker business) include Gadot, Lebreaux and the other members of NORA which I forget the names of.

[Future Esthar]

Exactly.I was being simple and objective.Not every character is orphan in the strict sense(i.e. they have parents).
I was not talking on the broader sense.
Also:
Hope is motherless and his father is probably dead.
Nothing is said about Sazh´s parents.

[Loony BoB]

We have no proof stating that his father is probably dead. He was with the Cavalry, yes, but they would not have gained anything from bringing him into Edenhall, so I imagine they would have left him in a ship of theirs somewhere - meaning he's probably alive, since those in ships would have the highest chances of survival.

[arcanedude34]

I assumed Hope's dad survived (another thing the ending neglected to show us >_>) and when was it ever said that Snow's parents are dead? I think Lightning, Fang, Serah, Snow, and Vanille, being over 18, would be too old to be considered orphans anyway. So, no, none of them are orphans.

[Loony BoB]

NORA are described as a group of orphans, if I recall accurately.

EDIT: Snow's DataLog states "Without a family to take care of him, Snow was raised in a Sanctum facility."

[Goldenboko]

Where all this is true, I believe the choice of the name (SPOILER)Orphan for the Final Boss is due to the Maker situation. This would also be a much deeper plot than being named after the main characters as it would tie the Final Boss's name into it's reason for creation.

[arcanedude34]

NORA are described as a group of orphans, if I recall accurately.

EDIT: Snow's DataLog states "Without a family to take care of him, Snow was raised in a Sanctum facility."

Ah, my bad. But still.

[Future Esthar]

The question is:
The fact that most of the characters are orphans IS NOT a coincidence.
Also it hints at the Seed reference.