Quote Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9 View Post
Essentially, people complain about no hardcore games on the Wii, but then they don't but the games on the Wii.
I'm not going to argue this point really because neither of us would have any real data on the breakdown of Wii owner demographics. But I do want to say something perhaps as a bit of food for thought; have you ever considered that the inability for so-called hardcore games to sell may say more about the kind of people who bought the Wii than it does hardcore gamers.

I complain about the lack of hardcore games on the Wii myself, but I also don't own one, largely because there's nothing there that appeals to me enough to buy the console for it especially given my hatred for the controller. It's sort of a chicken and the egg thing since you can't bring in hardcore gamers without good hardcore games, but how do you justify making them if there's no perceived market there.

If I were going to blame anything for the lack of hardcore games and support from hardcore gamers though, I'd blame it on Nintendo seemingly turning their backs on hardcore gamers in a lot of ways. From the focus on easier to use motion controls and simpler games, to wave after wave of marketing targeting casual gamers, and endless amounts of shovelware getting a license to be released, I can't fault any hardcore gamer who passes on the Wii because they feel like Nintendo could care less about them.