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  • <s>Australia</s>

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Thread: The Official 2010 FIFA World Cup Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulainn View Post
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    I thought Maicons goal was deliberate because of how his body was positioned and how he hit the ball. It was some goal, up there with the best so far!
    I think if you watch the whole thing you will realise it was a fluke. He bombed down, looked behind him slightly into the box, looked down & banged it. When he banged it he twisted his body to shoot diagonally behind. It was a glorious fluke.
    Isn't it very possible he meant to fool the keeper? Plus, he was a few yards away from the keeper and he blasted it, which also tells me it wasn't a cross but a shot. Finally, the way he hit it off the outside of his boot looks to me to be intended in order to swerve it away from the keeper. Great goal technically. Of course there's no way of really knowing but that's what I think.

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    Whether it was a fluke or not, I don't think it was but either way, it was an excellent goal. North Korea's was good too, I was very pleased for them.

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    True, North Korea's was top notch. I didn't think it was a bad game either to be honest. Second half was decent. I hope Spain put on a show tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Edge View Post
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    I thought Maicons goal was deliberate because of how his body was positioned and how he hit the ball. It was some goal, up there with the best so far!
    I think if you watch the whole thing you will realise it was a fluke. He bombed down, looked behind him slightly into the box, looked down & banged it. When he banged it he twisted his body to shoot diagonally behind. It was a glorious fluke.
    Isn't it very possible he meant to fool the keeper? Plus, he was a few yards away from the keeper and he blasted it, which also tells me it wasn't a cross but a shot. Finally, the way he hit it off the outside of his boot looks to me to be intended in order to swerve it away from the keeper. Great goal technically. Of course there's no way of really knowing but that's what I think.
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    I really think it was supposed to be a cross, but it doesn't really matter anyway. Brasil forced DPR and a little luck was all that was left to be needed.

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    I just watched the goal through several times, and the people stating unequivocally that it wasn't a shot attempt (I'm looking at you, Cuch) are amusing. Your adamant stance prompted me to go watch the goal for myself.

    I'm not absolutely sure whether it was a real shot attempt or a cross. I do think it was a real shot on goal, though, for a few reasons. One, if it was a cross attempt, he missed his mark on the ball by a mile, because he was hitting it way too low on the ball to hit it that hard (making an assist virtually impossible). It might have been a viable cross lower down, but a chest-high bullet? Sure, it's possible he miss hit it, but then the only possibility is that he's enormously lucky the ball went right between the keeper and the goal. Also, if you look at the back angle from this video, the ball had a little backspin, more consistent with a smash laces-hit than a missed toe-hit.

    Cuch, your main piece of "evidence" is that he appeared to look up and straight, not towards the goal. Yeah, obviously he'd look up right where he did, regardless of what he was ultimately going to do: to see if someone was open, to see where the keeper was, etc. He also would have seen that there was a sea of red in front of him, with no one open -- and the keeper was standing several feet in front of the goal (expecting cross, I'm sure). I don't think he meant to fool the keeper, just that he meant to look up and see the field. He was not looking opposite the goal, so there's absolutely no way you can say he did not see the goal and keeper. If anything, the fact that he looked up (meaning he saw the goal, keeper, and the swarm of red in front of his teammates) is more support that he tried a shot.

    It seems like it requires less explanation that it was a good shot. I just have to assume he saw an opening (which he would've seen when he looked up) To say it was a missed cross, you have to assume that all of the following happened: 1) he was making an awful cross attempt in the first place; 2) he miss hit the ball but still smashed it; 3) he miss hit the ball in a perfect location with a very small window. All of that is certainly possible, but it seems simpler that he just saw an opening and took it, and I don't see any evidence that contradicts that, so I have to go with Occam's Razor on this one.
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    It was a shot and a very good one.

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    smurf BRAZIL

    THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

    THEY DID NOT DESERVE TO WIN

    GRRRR I AM TYPING IN CAPS LOCK THAT IS HOW ENRAGED I AM

    DEAR LEADER WILL STRIKE THEM ALL DOWN WITH HIS LIGHTNING VISION

    north korea will probably beat portugal and ivory coast on that form though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony WeS View Post
    I just watched the goal through several times, and the people stating unequivocally that it wasn't a shot attempt (I'm looking at you, Cuch) are amusing. Your adamant stance prompted me to go watch the goal for myself.

    I'm not absolutely sure whether it was a real shot attempt or a cross. I do think it was a real shot on goal, though, for a few reasons. One, if it was a cross attempt, he missed his mark on the ball by a mile, because he was hitting it way too low on the ball to hit it that hard (making an assist virtually impossible). It might have been a viable cross lower down, but a chest-high bullet? Sure, it's possible he miss hit it, but then the only possibility is that he's enormously lucky the ball went right between the keeper and the goal. Also, if you look at the back angle from this video, the ball had a little backspin, more consistent with a smash laces-hit than a missed toe-hit.

    Cuch, your main piece of "evidence" is that he appeared to look up and straight, not towards the goal. Yeah, obviously he'd look up right where he did, regardless of what he was ultimately going to do: to see if someone was open, to see where the keeper was, etc. He also would have seen that there was a sea of red in front of him, with no one open -- and the keeper was standing several feet in front of the goal (expecting cross, I'm sure). I don't think he meant to fool the keeper, just that he meant to look up and see the field. He was not looking opposite the goal, so there's absolutely no way you can say he did not see the goal and keeper. If anything, the fact that he looked up (meaning he saw the goal, keeper, and the swarm of red in front of his teammates) is more support that he tried a shot.

    It seems like it requires less explanation that it was a good shot. I just have to assume he saw an opening (which he would've seen when he looked up) To say it was a missed cross, you have to assume that all of the following happened: 1) he was making an awful cross attempt in the first place; 2) he miss hit the ball but still smashed it; 3) he miss hit the ball in a perfect location with a very small window. All of that is certainly possible, but it seems simpler that he just saw an opening and took it, and I don't see any evidence that contradicts that, so I have to go with Occam's Razor on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulainn View Post
    Well you're wrong. But I am willing to accept you have no way of knowing that you're wrong.
    This made me giggle at how stupid that sounds.

    I'm looking foward to see Chile play. The guy Sanchez up front looks to be promising. As for Spain well, lets just say I switched my captain from Luis Fabiano to David Villa so they better do something for me. Worst gameweek in fantasy football ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Edge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulainn View Post
    Well you're wrong. But I am willing to accept you have no way of knowing that you're wrong.
    This made me giggle at how stupid that sounds.
    Was deliberately so my good man! This is too trivial for a tiff. Lets get oiled up & wrestle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Edge View Post
    Worst gameweek in fantasy football ever!
    Well, at least it's been bad for everyone! But think that today the World Cup will finally spring to life. Hopefully at least. Although I'd rather it be dull if we manage to beat Uruguay. Getting through to the knockout stages will be amazing.

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    Here's a good omen for those of us desperate for them at this point. 23 goals after 14 games is a record low for the World Cup, but the previous low after 14 games was Mexico 86 (28 goals apparently), and that turned out great. So yeah, it can happen again....right?

    Chile are meant to be an attacking side, so that'll be a 0-0 draw. Really hope South Africa do well tonight, the hosts doing well can only benefit the tournament. That and after their rubbish game I want Uruguay and France out. Go SA and Mexico!
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