Dislike this but liked X?

[Elpizo]

I'm the other way around. X is the most terrible Final Fantasy in existence, tied with title of "the worst" in the main series with VI, whereas I could actually be bothered to finish XIII, which I couldn't with X. XIII is okay, not too high on my list (all my favs surpass it, and it's not one of my favs). X is terrible, and is a game I wish I could forget I played. It had some good things (good battle system, some nice music), but most of it sucked (story, characters, sphere grid, character design, VOICE ACTING!!!). *shrugs*

As for similarities, oh they're there all right. Saying they aren't there is simply being in denial. Of course, there's some big differences between the two, too.

[Digital Phoenix]

Final Fantasy X is an all around better game. And it had actual side-quests that had you do more than just fight groups of monsters like you were already doing the entire time.

XIII is a massive disappointment on all fronts. I'm struggling just to finish the damn thing.

[Laddy]

XIII doesn't have a laughing scene. :evil:

[Rad Bromance]

XIII doesn't have a laughing scene. :evil:

Nor does it have Tidus.

It wins by default.

[Skyblade]

XIII doesn't have a laughing scene. :evil:

Nor does it have Tidus.

It wins by default.

Nor does it have Auron, so it just lost that default-win.

[Cloudane]

Har
Har
Har
Har
Har
Har
HA!!

The laughing scene may be cheesy as hell, but leaving 'fond' memories like that is what it's all about

[seiferalmasy2]

I think the idea was that it would be a nice moment where Tidus is taught to lighten up by yuna and the actual writing and idea are a good one.

Sadly the voice actors, especially that of Tidus, did not pull it off.

[Rad Bromance]

XIII doesn't have a laughing scene. :evil:

Nor does it have Tidus.

It wins by default.

Nor does it have Auron, so it just lost that default-win.

Pfff, Auron is an undead, drunk, one-limp-wristed, "this is yoooouuurrr story" spouting, whiny hippee. Why do people try to pass him off as a badass?

I'd take Lightning or Barret or Cid Highwind or Amarant or Balthier or even Fighter over Auron any day.

[kotora]

I think the idea was that it would be a nice moment where Tidus is taught to lighten up by yuna and the actual writing and idea are a good one.

Sadly the voice actors, especially that of Tidus, did not pull it off.

actually the moment was supposed to be awkward. To show how Yuna's still trying to laugh even though she knows she's soon going to die, which of course is actually pretty sad. This point is lost on most people.

[seiferalmasy2]

ah yes, you are quite right...

Still, Tidus voice actor does not do a good job of the scene AT ALL. You are right, Yuna is going to die and that was the main point. Tidus was supposed to genuinely laugh though but the voice acting is pretty dire there. (I didn't mind Yuna's actually, wasn't great but I can deal with it)

[Cloudane]

I don't know, I think Tidus was supposed to be feeling awkward as well. He'd just been told that the big city-smashing monster is his dad.

When they start giggling at their own awkwardness (like they did on the boat before that.. 'the wind is nice') it's supposed to be genuine I think and you can immediately tell.

Also apparently the scene comes across just as cringe-worthy in Japanese.

[Skyblade]

I liked the scene. They're two teenagers stuck in very uncomfortable positions. Tidus, facing the reality that he'd never make it back to his home, and Yuna, facing her death when she summons the Final Aeon. Each is contemplating the end of all they've known, and neither really knows that the other is in the same situation at this point. The scene is uncomfortable and full of nervous energy, and the laugh is their way of releasing it. It sounds forced and unnatural because it was, and it was supposed to be. I thought it was quite well executed and fit perfectly with the characters and the situations they were in. And then we get to everyone else staring at them and calling them nuts, and that fit too. This sort of thing is one of the things I like about X's characters, and, while the scene may be awkward as hell, I wouldn't want it removed.

My point of view on the subject, taken from one of the many threads on this topic in the FFX forum.

But we're drifting off FFXIII again.

[Laddy]

I understand it was supposed to be awkward.

But it succeeded far more than it needed to.

[Wolf Kanno]

They both are similar, XIII basically finishes the job that X started and all the flaws between both games were the same.

Linear "road" dungeons and maps with only a handful of locations being interesting to look at as well as one token large expansive area that only unlocks 3/4th of the way in. The few interesting places are hindered by the player suddenly discovering that its all wallpaper to the sterile dungeon/map design.

Streamlined battle system that destroys most idea of choice. Customization systems that only create the illusion of choice and only actually begin to offer real choice after its not any more useful cause you've beaten the game.

Bad casts of characters; with cheesy overly-melodramatic stories and dialogue. Not to mention both are terribly predictable and both suffer from BS plot twists that make taking either game seriously almost impossible.

90% of the extra content is unlocked at the 3/4th mark of the games, side-quests that mostly only serve for other irrelevant end game stuff to do and is completely separate from the main story meaning they are basically there for people who have beaten the game and want something else to do.

Pointless NPCs shop systems that are almost completely irrelevant cause either stats are more important or the game hands you equips and items like it was the end of the world. An equipment system that is mostly useless cause the game is more dependent on your stats than equips and most of their "bonuses" are negligible in the main story.

Yeah... its obvious they were made by the same core team. XIII reminded me of FFX a lot as I played (with hints of Xenosaga Episode 2). Its no wonder I didn't like the game.

[Loony BoB]

The story of XIII seemed kind of half assed to me, whereas in X it seemed much more fleshed out and complete. Only problem was I didn't like X's story in the least. So I get to chose between disinterest and aggravation. Whee!

This is close to my opinion, but with slight differences...

The gameplay of XIII seemed kind of half assed to me, whereas in X it seemed much more fleshed out and complete. Only problem was I didn't like X's story or characters in the least. So I get to chose between a lack of things to do and aggravation. Whee!

I rate XIII slightly ahead of X overall. Gameplay is only good when you aren't being constantly annoyed by the characters carrying out said gameplay. Everything about Tidus annoyed me, and Yuna wasn't much better. Basically I would have liked to enjoy the game a bit more, but I simply couldn't because of the story and characters. XIII, for me, lacked things to do but having said that, I enjoyed the things I was able to do, so it was good while it lasted. Once that was done, though, I had nothing to do but more of the same, and that left me wanting a bit more. Luckily for the 140-150 hours I spent playing, the characters made it even more enjoyable than it would have been otherwise, so I'm glad for that, too.

But then, for me, X is pretty much as bad as FF has got (outside of X-2, but I've not played that so it's hard to give a definite verdict)... so it's pretty easy for me to make a decision. I understand other people didn't have as much trouble dealing with the two lead characters in FFX and thus found the game much more enjoyable. Good for them.