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    Agrias, marijuana illegalization happened way before there were legitimate pharmaceutical companies. It was first made illegal in the early 1900's due to several different reasons; among them use predominately among African Americans, Mormons and Mexican immigrants and the fact that it was a very competitive cash crop against tobacco which was making crazy money for Americans.

    Furthermore, what'shisface didn't say he wanted your relatives to die faster. And he didn't say you were a terrible person. But everyone could stand to do a little more research, I agree.

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    So basically everyone who wasnt liking the lack of money they were getting from everyone using marijuana decided to make it illegal because they were greedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrias View Post
    This kind of helps explain what the THC in a marijuana plant can do for cancer.

    For the people saying i'm trying to "undermine legitimate treatments for cancer", thats idiotic. The only reason the pot plant has been deemed "illegal" is because they know it can cure many things and be used in so many ways. If they deem it unusable we have to go to other sources, not so pure and get even more sick because of the chemicals, all because the pharmaceutical companies want money.

    If you watch the movie, you'd probably get certain viewpoints that back up my claim. Even just do your own research on THC, you'll find what i'm saying is true.

    The fact that you come to me saying i'm a terrible person for not wanting my relatives pumped with chemicals that in the end, kill them faster, is offending to me!
    When my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer the first thing she did was go through a massive stage of denial. She had 3 doctors diagnose her by touch alone and STILL wanted another opinion. What do you think she did after this episode?

    Went straight for the miracle cures online.

    Cancer isn't a cold. Cancer doesn't have a home remedy. Cancer doesn't go away after a while. If you do nothing about cancer, it will kill you. What this person is doing to your relatives and other victims of cancer is giving them false hope. They're giving them a reason to not go back to the doctor and face what they HAVE TO DO.

    I never said you were a terrible person. The fact that you're discussing this shows you're probably a very caring person.

    I'm sure there is a possibility of some placebo effect, some possibility this guy told someone "I have the cure", and that's just what they needed to hear to overcome their cancer. But I'm also convinced that's all there is to it. Do you want to convince anyone to stake their life on that? Do you realize this could lead to people, who are in a less than rational mindset, making very, very grave mistakes?

    I understand how interesting the subject is to you, but you're going to have to find a more credible source than mister Donofat's post on an anonymous website.
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    I think you are rather blind to accept heinous claims so readily, people claim they can do things every day, but there is no science/ research/ or case studies I know of that have the claims verified of a cure for cancer. I garuntee you there are countries considerably more liberal than mine (USA) that would gladly allow a man to research anything in order to find a cure for cancer. Believe it or not even America allows people to go through the usda to test marijuana for all sorts of properties. I think your mad for no real reason at all, meh, feel free to flame me for my opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hythloday View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Agrias View Post
    This kind of helps explain what the THC in a marijuana plant can do for cancer.

    For the people saying i'm trying to "undermine legitimate treatments for cancer", thats idiotic. The only reason the pot plant has been deemed "illegal" is because they know it can cure many things and be used in so many ways. If they deem it unusable we have to go to other sources, not so pure and get even more sick because of the chemicals, all because the pharmaceutical companies want money.

    If you watch the movie, you'd probably get certain viewpoints that back up my claim. Even just do your own research on THC, you'll find what i'm saying is true.

    The fact that you come to me saying i'm a terrible person for not wanting my relatives pumped with chemicals that in the end, kill them faster, is offending to me!
    When my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer the first thing she did was go through a massive stage of denial. She had 3 doctors diagnose her by touch alone and STILL wanted another opinion. What do you think she did after this episode?

    Went straight for the miracle cures online.

    Cancer isn't a cold. Cancer doesn't have a home remedy. Cancer doesn't go away after a while. If you do nothing about cancer, it will kill you. What this person is doing to your relatives and other victims of cancer is giving them false hope. They're giving them a reason to not go back to the doctor and face what they HAVE TO DO.

    I never said you were a terrible person. The fact that you're discussing this shows you're probably a very caring person.

    I'm sure there is a possibility of some placebo effect, some possibility this guy told someone "I have the cure", and that's just what they needed to hear to overcome their cancer. But I'm also convinced that's all there is to it. Do you want to convince anyone to stake their life on that? Do you realize this could lead to people, who are in a less than rational mindset, making very, very grave mistakes?

    I understand how interesting the subject is to you, but you're going to have to find a more credible source than mister Donofat's post on an anonymous website.
    Okay, well i'm saying watch the goddamn movie and you'll see the news anchor that took the story in Novia Scotia and how the legions got shut down because Rick Simpson was giving them the oil for free to cure their different types of cancer. You havent researched one bit into this and the reason i brought up the movie is to educate people like you who are so avidly against something you know NOTHING about.

    Also here are some testimonials from the movie.
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    I have watched the movie. If I had cancer and I was going off the movie alone, I'd think it was a big hoax. It pretty much plays out like an infomercial, not a documentary. It doesn't explain why THC works to combat cancer, it just says it does and that it's "very medicinal"

    Seriously, it seems so much like a one-hour infomercial, it's would've been laughable if it wasn't such a serious topic. Spinning graphics and a voice-over saying it'll cure "cancer, common colds, snoring, organ failure etc. etc." doesn't instill me with belief.

    Whilst I don't deny that THC does have medicinal uses and that there is research to support this, I'm still very doubtful of these claims. And a few scattered testimonials on the world wide web aren't going to convince me that all the medical, pharmaceutical and health departments in the world are in on a some kind of money-thieving scheme to leave cancer uncured. Call me small minded or pessimistic, but this is just how I honestly feel about it.

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    I know a person who suffers from cerebral pulse and the only way he is living today is because the weed that he smokes keeps the seizures away.

    Another friend of mine has OCD, smoking weed helps his mind stabilize itself.

    My step mother had an accident where she pretty much had her spine crushed by a shelving unit. She has no feeling in her leg except for painful spasms from her pain receptors in that leg. The doctors put her on morphine so she wouldnt feel the pain but all the morphine did was turn her into a zombie. She lost half her body weight while she was on morphine and was about to die. A friend of hers had her try some hash and after two uses she saw positive reactions. She was awake and perceptive, she would eat healthily, she didnt feel the pain in her leg and was able to move it on her own more.

    I've seen proof of its healing powers with three completely seperate diseases/medical situations. If it works for those, i have no doubt that there is a property in THC that cures cancer.
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    He broke the law repeatedly. His "lifetime imprisonment" seems to be because he thinks he is too fragile and weak to survive in the hellish canadian jails.
    Not even the judge that tried him in 2008 thinks he's a terrible person, Alice. They said he was completely altruistic and wished he would have cooperated with authorities.
    But he said he couldn?t grant a discharge because Mr. Simpson chose to grow marijuana and distribute his hemp oil illegally instead of participating in the federal government?s medical marijuana program.
    It's hard to find any worthwhile information, because every single forums post besides yours seems to be potheads getting very het up over his video and irate that anyone could ever be jailed for doing something against the law. Meanwhile, research is still going on as to whether cannabinoids would be useful.
    Not just overseas as the militant druggies would have you think, either There was something published from University of California San Francisco in January, and from the University of South Carolina last October.

    So no, I'm not going to get virulently angry. Scientists seem to be working on it!

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    I would consider it irrelevant that he's doing something minutely illegal in order to help terminally sick people. But i guess i'm on of the only people who think that way.
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    Helping people? So where are the trials and studies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod View Post
    Helping people? So where are the trials and studies?
    Because the pharmaceutical companies are trying to find a way to minimize the side effects while selling it for top denero. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to realize that.
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    I thought hemp was legal in canada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrias View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod View Post
    Helping people? So where are the trials and studies?
    Because the pharmaceutical companies are trying to find a way to minimize the side effects while selling it for top denero. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to realize that.
    I... what? *headdesk*

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Agrias View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod View Post
    Helping people? So where are the trials and studies?
    Because the pharmaceutical companies are trying to find a way to minimize the side effects while selling it for top denero. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to realize that.
    I... what? *headdesk*
    Oh wow, i read that wrong. URITE!

    What i meant to say was, they've already been doing trials and studies, like the study made by a team in Harvard university in that link i posted a couple posts back.
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    Every time you turn around there's someone like this who has some miracle medicine and they're supposedly silenced via some drawn out conspiracy and all the accusations against them for their illegal activities are false.

    If this was real, I guarantee you the last thing the pharmaceutical industry would do is use the government to erase it. Do you know how much money the pharmaceutical industry could make if they had an actual cure for cancer? They'd have everything to gain from this man and if nothing else pay him a huge sum of money to own his said cure.

    You can find people all over the internet saying they've cured everything from cancer to AIDS, and if you believe these people I feel a tad sorry for you. I feel even sorrier for the people with these diseases that they've suckered money out of because they're desperate for hope.

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