There's about half a dozen lead characters I'd put behind her. If you actually mean out of every character ever in a Final Fantasy game you are being silly.
There's about half a dozen lead characters I'd put behind her. If you actually mean out of every character ever in a Final Fantasy game you are being silly.
Boy am I an unfunny ass.
For me, she is easily the best character in FFXIII and I much preferred her than to Squall...what a socially awkward weirdo. Also, Lightning can kick ass.
Anyway, am I the only person that likes Tidus. He wasn't born a hero, he wasn't taught how to fight and he doesn't have any special super powers (except magic, but that doesn't count) and yet he stepped up and saved Spira.
So Lightning is worse than Quina, who's only motivation in the game is to eat stuff? Or Amarant? What about Yuffie? Or the masses of under-developed characters from earlier FFs.
And I don't think the Cloud/Lightning comparison is entirely fair. For me, Cloud is like a wimpy emo version of Lightning. Whereas Cloud continuously goes on about how he used to be from SOLDIER and he's a mercenary, Lightning is just cold and a bad-ass. She then develops and becomes less cold and more open, etc etc, which is predictable, although the path that got her there was a little bit unusual.
And Tidus wasn't that bad. Yes, I found his voice acting bad for the first half of the game. That strangely enough had nothing to do with me getting used to his voice, because when I replayed it (New Game + straight after finishing it), I found his voice acting in the beginning to be just as bad. But, he did (SPOILER)choose to defeat Sin knowing that he would disappear as a result which is fairly noble of him.
Yes! I prefer quality over quantity when it comes to character. Lightning may have more of a story and (regrettably) more dialogue than many final fantasy characters, but every single one of those other characters is better than Lightning. 98% of her lines are her just repeating that they have to keep hope and keep on going and crap like that. She never says anything interesting and much of what she says has already been hammered home three times. I would much rather have a character with more sparse dialogue, if that dialogue is actually interesting.Originally Posted by champagne supernova
Quina was so much better than Lightning. She was concise, interesting, and not annoying. Same with Yuffie and Amarant. I never thought, "Man I hate these people, they are so inane".
I feel like I played a different game from the people who are saying she is a cold bad*ss. She seemed to me just a total dumb*ss!!
I do agree with you, champagne supernova, that Tidus was an OK main character. A little annoying sometimes but I like him overall.
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I'm gonna have to go with Lexy on this one guys.
The major details I remember about lightning:
-Her service in the military constantly gives her the opportunity to tell the others just how insanely difficult it'll be to take on Cocoon. (Just like how Cloud would brag about SOLDIER)
-Her intense, and somewhat misplaced hatred for Snow. (I get it, Snow can be a bit of a dumbass, it's not like you could put your differences aside long enough to solve the more immediate problem. Like, say, the entire government wanting them dead (that's also my problem with Hope. Seriously guys, I know he needs a scapegoat, but "Operation Nora" could have been executed at a better time.)
-Her sudden epiphany that's supposed to win her automatic sympathy, and apparently also resolves her conflict with Snow.
I'm not saying that she's the worst character in the series though. I personally can't connect with her. AT ALL. I can connect with Sazh, Snow, even with Hope (who I hated with a burning passion), but Lightning's only action that made sense to me was ironically enough, her wanting to charge Cocoon, and destroy all the fal'Cie, just so she felt like she was still in control of her life.
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Reinward, Lexy, Edge7, if you all truly believe the mess you've written, then you are all sad little men.
I'm going with the people that hate Lightning. For starters I would like to say that I hate characters with no personality and no heart. Sure she can win every battle thrown at her, but what main character can't?
Also I hate how they make the team of characters all connect. This is my own little issue with 12 and 13. I'm not talking about battles, I'm talking about how lame the voices are. I like it when each character had their own story. Also how the FMV graphics are not that much better then regular battles and walking around. I liked having a 3d environment to walk around and then when I thought the game was lame I seen something beautiful that made up for it.
Back on Lightning though, everything she says is the same thing. Sadly she isn't the only character that was like that. Lightning would talk purely about the army and fighting. Snow would talk purely about Sarah. Hope was about his mom. Sazhe would talk about his kid. Vanille and Fang had their little thing. It was just boring and drawn out. A lot like 12. XII had one thing, it didn't matter who said what to me. The plot was gave and that was that.
Marcus
"No cloud, no squall shall hinder us!" - FF9
Games completed - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 10-2, 12, 13, 13-2, 13-3 Tactics, Tactics Advanced, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, KH, KH2, And played 11.
I didn't find her very interesting, I can't say I found any of the characters all that interesting either. No depth to any of them, it seemed to me their entire creation, i.e. their appearance, personality and dialogue, was rushed. I like her hair though.
They did indeed.
And Vanille?
I'm loving the Lightening hate. Personally, i couldn't stand her, for pretty much all the reasons mentioned. Though she's not my most hated character, that probabley goes to Hope.
Wow I must be the only one here who not only liked Lighting, but she was actually my second favorite protagonist in any FF game. My favorite being Cloud because even though Lighting's a badass, Cloud was more of a badass.
As far as being emotion-less goes, isn't that a theme with Protagonists?
Bartz? Terra? Cloud? Squal?
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"It is a well-known fact that all heroes in all tales disliked vegetables as children.
Their legend begins with their overcoming of this weakness, and then continues with a journey filled with hardships.
That noble vegetable, the onion, lives on as a symbol of hardships overcome, and as the mark of a true hero."
I think the problem isn't protagonists being emotionless, but people not being able to pick anything up if they don't wear their hearts on their sleeves. Most people consider me 'emotionless' but I just tend to express what I am feeling very subtly, I feel these characters are much the same way.
Thank you! People keep saying lighting's a robot but to me she displays far more than cloud!
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