Rye and her powers!!! *is dazzled*
I kinda agree with Rye that the southern part is very rude and the girls do wear micro skirts in cold weather..Hell girls did that in toronto as well so its not really that much of a shocker....
Good lord I remember my brother shouting at the gates of Queen's palace asking her if she's in, and if he can have a cup of tea with her! '_';
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Ok now we're setting the mood correct for this post. Cuch I love you normally but right now you're talking so much outta your ass when you speak I see right through you like a damn polo mint.
Going in to world war 2 which btw, England initiated because we refused to back down over the ultimatum of "Invade Poland and well it's war" England had a much smaller military force than Germany at the start of both world wars however England was world class in terms of military size. We were in fact THE most professional army in the world at the time. Our airforce rightfully scared the crap out of the Lufftwaffe because whilst they had the machines and the pilots to launch a blitzkrieg (which translates literally to lightning strike) which could crush the opposition of a country in a matter of hours or days. (look at how fast the blitzkrieg tactic worked against France, Poland, Austria and other nations in Europe which fell to the Nazi war machine) and the tactics to win the british RAF had something what made their previous successes moot, they had radar, planes on an equal playing field and more experience than any of the previous airforces the lufftwaffe had come across in the war so far. They also were fighting for their homes, their families and I don't know about you but if I was flying for that? Knowing do or die, victory or your family could be blown to hell? I would fly my smurfing ass off regardless of whether it was safe to do so and if I made it back alive well that'd be a bonus.
England never fell to the Germans and not because Hitler didn't try, he failed because he wanted to use the same tactic as had worked on mainland europe on England. Bomb us in to a submissive state (infrastructure and industry was his primary targets and the morale of the populace a close secondary) and then march in the tanks and infantry. His tactic failed at the get go because even discounting the fact that he made his foolish move to attack Russia at this time too (you don't fight Russia and America at the same time, you get them to fight each other and mop up the survivors ~ Quote in the Tom Clancy book The Sum of All Fears says this nicely, though the quote easily can be changed to the west or England considering the time point we were talking about, Russian strength lay in numbers of "disposable" troops they could basically force in to taking and holding objectives by sheer force of bodies and will, British strength lay in tactics and equipment) Russian forces didn't really press Germany back from Stalingrad until after D-Day when Hitler was forced to move more and more infantry away from the eastern front to protect Berlin from the advancing allied forces to his west. Though Russia did force the Germans out of Russia and all the way back to Poland they did not do so alone. Eventually the men of Russia would have been exhausted and the Germans would have won had it not been for D-Day which is way after the Germans had failed to defeat the English, in fact by then the war was all but over one way or another he was already defeated.
England succeeded where others failed not just because of the channel but because they were professionals who realized the value of the tactical withdrawl from Dunkirk and who had saved their planes and kept their pilots training for such an occassion. Our pilots were as good as they could get, their training solid and whilst the tactics weren't always sound we had more victories in the air than any other country fighting against the Nazi warmachine.
I will also point out that if England had fallen to the Nazi warmachine, just how long do you believe your precious Ireland would've lasted? I'd measure it in the number of hours it would take for Hitler to have his planes refuelled and reloaded and some ships on the otherside of the country to invade you I'll give it 24 hours from official surrender of England to the defeat of Ireland. That is if Ireland didn't surrender immediately upon England falling to the Germans.
With units like the SAS, SBS, Ghurka's and the Para's we still are one of the most professional and powerful armies in the world even though we are still much smaller than armies of many countries. God forbid being on the receiving end of such forces even in modern warfare, Just look to our recent historical victories in theaters where we fought alone. Our parachute regiment earnt a truly fearsome reputation against the Argentinian's in the Falklands war. Hell we have the Ghurka's and frankly the idea of pissing them off makes me more afraid than the idea of pissing the SAS or SBS off. Our special forces for years have educated and cross trained other nations special forces including those of America, Germany and Austrailia (all of whom are known for having some of the toughest special forces in the world but they still have a healthy respect for the training our SAS and SBS boys go through to be the best)
Ofcourse Cuch you could be trolling us brits or you could just be acting like an ass but just because the irish got the raw end of a deal you gotta think that without us, you'd be speaking as much german as any of us.
On topic now...
England to me is home, I've travelled to a few countries now and whilst yes, I could probably live somewhere else and enjoy it England is home. I laugh when people like Dennis ect say bad breath because yeah some people do but so do people in their countries too and believe me having served enough tourists I can tell you aside from old people, the smelliest are always tourists :P
I don't always like England at times I wish I could just flee to any other place on earth as it could be better than here. However I know if I went there and done that I would in all likely see that "the grass is always greener on the otherside" visiting a country is very different from living in one and whilst many people visit America ask them how many of them would want to actually live there, to abide by the laws and to have the same opportunities as the americans there. Ask them if they'd like to give up things like the NHS (bad mouth it all we like, we get world class medical care for "free" just by paying our taxes which really aren't even the highest in Europe) most people would say no.
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Footnote: I do actually know a LOT about WWI and WWII and the inter war years, I'm even sourced in books I'm that epic.
I was, however, using my knowledge to convinvingly wind people up.
I stand by my position, however, that if it was not for the English Channel, Hitler would have swept through France, Belgium, Holland AND Britain in May 1940.
The British cause was helped by Hitler in the Battle of Britain when he switched from bombing RAF facilities and ports to bombing cities in response to the RAF bombing of Berloin. RAF papers stated that it was on its knees until then.
I am not taking ANYTHING away from the heroic deeds of the British back then. Of course I'm not. I'm making an objective viewpoint that is hard to argue against. Churchhill said in 1940 'Thank God for the French Army'. It was huge, well equipped but badly run. The German's cut throuigh it like knife through butter. In 1940 Britain was struggling almost everywhere. She had inadequate tanks, an aging Navy and an air force on its knees. I'm merely stating Hitler's forces would have oberrun the UK if that land mass was still there joining it to Europe.
Ireland? We've always been an Island.
Last edited by Cuchulainn; 06-29-2010 at 08:49 PM.
Rye and her powers!!! *is dazzled*
I kinda agree with Rye that the southern part is very rude and the girls do wear micro skirts in cold weather..Hell girls did that in toronto as well so its not really that much of a shocker....
Good lord I remember my brother shouting at the gates of Queen's palace asking her if she's in, and if he can have a cup of tea with her! '_';
"Lets go for a spin you and I"
about the trampy girls, yeah unfortunatley there are quite a few. But not everyone is like that, lots of us English girls are decent upstanding individuals. i'm from the south and i don't think its that rude. I found france to be quite rude but i don't think that all of the french are rude, that would be absurd.
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Bad food. English food is the absolute worst food I have ever experienced in my life. Sorry guys, but I totally despised it. :sad:
Great sense of humor. The English are a riot and a half. Never before has someone insulted me to my face and I feel all the better for it.
The English are normally friendly, but mean English people are about as mean as you can get.
When I went to London, people were tanning 70 degrees farenheit weather. LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Sorry, but I find that so hilarious.
Much better music. Seriously, I really do not like modern American music, but when I listened to English radio, I enjoyed it so much more than when I normally listened to the radio. And no Nickelback!
Laddy depends on where you ate, some english food is terrible but frankly it depends on the chef not on the country the food is cooked in.
The food problem extends to Ireland too. If I lived in America I'd be a fat bastard. In the 3 weeks I was there last July I gained 6 pounds. Your food..places? have ze tastiest food.
Wait, really? smurf. Next Ciddies then.Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~
I don't think he knows about the fact that ciddies happen twice a yearWhy '11?
England to me means farting in people's faces to wake them up, burping in their faces while courting them, taking a town full of people out into the woods to sacrifice them to the shadow god, kicking chickens long distances for the amusement of others, and beating all of life's obstacles the best way I can and then turning around and kiiling everyone.
England doesn't mean much to me, despite the fact that the Queen is on our five dollar bill.
We've also taken pleasure out of beating them in cricket and rugby in the past, though that's not so much the case anymore. It's also the home of Top Gear which is just about my favourite show (the Australian version isn't as good).
Mo, no one else's version of Top Gear is as good as the original. You just cannot beat Clarkson, May and Hammond and lets not forget The Stig.
I understand that as well. But the good chefs must of been on break because not the food was particularly good. :/
For example, I had some Fish and Chips THREE TIMES and it was all so...bland.
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