I thought he was expressing the way ffix self referenced ff and pointing out cheerful little facts that we might not have noticed, sometimes with wry humour. I found it pleasant.Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover
I thought he was expressing the way ffix self referenced ff and pointing out cheerful little facts that we might not have noticed, sometimes with wry humour. I found it pleasant.
Kefka's coming, look intimidating!
Have a nice day!!
http://forums.eyesonff.com/final-fan...x-2-truth.htmlKeep up, guys!
Anybody who wants to point-by-point 'debunk' a review by someone who didn't think the game was too good needs to reassess their life goals. FFX-2 was utter hog, but I never made a thread with a huge opening post about how every part of the game was crap!
This is an amusing coincidence, I just found this guy's articles a few weeks ago and have been having fun with the articles. The guy is pretty damn hilarious especially his review for VIII and IV.
I miss the days of 'tude as well.
Like some have said though, I feel you are being a bit too defensive on his article, while it's obvious the author doesn't like Kuja or Zidane, he does pretty much seem to like the rest of the title and enjoys the throwbacks (some of which I didn't even catch like the shop name or the fact the Eidolon Wall references the Queen from FFI and not just Princess Sarah) but he does make a point of explaining the titles faults which being the game borrows heavily from previous games and it does unfortunately takes some of the worst elements of both the old and new school titles in the form of some crummy game mechanics and wee bit too much of that teen angst.
Also, Garland is anything but original, he is basically Zemus with more dialogue but he's basically using the same goal of wiping out the population of one race to make room for his own technologically advances race. Zemus created the Giant of Babil for the task while Garland created Zidane and Kuja. Kuja himself is an amalgamation of the best villains in the series, specifically Golbez, Kefka, and Sephiroth. While I have no problem with such a character I can understand where other people might.
Beyond that, I wouldn't take such an article too serious. Just enjoy it and laugh cause that's what its purpose is, entertainment.
True beauty exists in things that last only for a moment.
Current Mood: And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe. Maybe this year will be better than the last. I can't remember all the times I tried to tell myself. To hold on to these moments as they pass...
From what I know of Zermus, he was just a traditional FF villain. Kill everyone, conquer everything..Complete Monster kinda thing.
Garland was the first example of moral ambiguity in the FF series as far as I'm aware. Sure he wanted to kill everyone and take over the planet but that's what he was made to do. He is doing what he thinks is right and necessary to save his people.
Even when Terra is destroyed he does all he can just to save the universe. Though his entire mission, all his hundreds of years of existence, were for nothing, he helps save everyone else.
Garland, like most of the FFIX's villain cast apart from Zorn & Thorn, had a lot of depth.
I'll give the writer of the article credit for understanding that much.
Zemus argued against the other Lunarians about how to deal with the Blue Planet, he suggested they should conquer with the Giant of Bab-il instead of waiting for humanity to reach the Lunarians level of culture. For this he was imprisoned and forced to sleep by the people he was trying to help. His rage comes from feeling betrayed by his own kind and resents and hates the races of the Blue Planet. He's basically alien Hitler. I wouldn't call him a simple "I R EVIL" at least not a simple or atypical version.
I never said the cast was underdeveloped, simply that they do pay homage to past characters and plot events. Zidane himself is often noted by some fans to be modeled after Locke and Edgar from VI for example (I think Edge shows up in there as well). Some people just feel like IX is sometimes less homage and more of a blatant rip off from past successes. I don;'t feel the author feels this completely, in his later articles on X and X-2 he pretty much says IX is the last true FF game for him and everything afterwards is the result of FF going corporate. Actually his X-2 review is pretty hilarious and sadly reminded me why I haven't touched the game since I beat it.Garland was the first example of moral ambiguity in the FF series as far as I'm aware. Sure he wanted to kill everyone and take over the planet but that's what he was made to do. He is doing what he thinks is right and necessary to save his people.
Even when Terra is destroyed he does all he can just to save the universe. Though his entire mission, all his hundreds of years of existence, were for nothing, he helps save everyone else.
Garland, like most of the FFIX's villain cast apart from Zorn & Thorn, had a lot of depth.
I'll give the writer of the article credit for understanding that much.
True beauty exists in things that last only for a moment.
Current Mood: And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe. Maybe this year will be better than the last. I can't remember all the times I tried to tell myself. To hold on to these moments as they pass...
Fair enough. I should really get back to finishing FFIV finally.
Meh. The author isn't remotely as intelligent as he thinks he is if he can't understand a character in a Final Fantasy game.I never said the cast was underdeveloped, simply that they do pay homage to past characters and plot events. Zidane himself is often noted by some fans to be modeled after Locke and Edgar from VI for example (I think Edge shows up in there as well). Some people just feel like IX is sometimes less homage and more of a blatant rip off from past successes. I don;'t feel the author feels this completely, in his later articles on X and X-2 he pretty much says IX is the last true FF game for him and everything afterwards is the result of FF going corporate. Actually his X-2 review is pretty hilarious and sadly reminded me why I haven't touched the game since I beat it.
Put it this way, Wolf. I have a very different view of the seris tahn you as I like X and X-2. But I respect you because you know what you're talking about.
This guy has made too many obvious errors that I can't respect him nearly as much and his sniping comes off as just...wrong.
Last edited by Forsaken Lover; 07-26-2010 at 11:22 AM.
Best quote ever.I'd like to play devil's advocate for a moment. Ordinarily, when somebody can stumble upon spoilers for the newest installment of your ongoing fantasy series by watching old reruns of Dragonball Z, shouldn't that usually be taken as an indication that you've jumped the shark? Just sayin'.
I actually really loved FF9 but I am now re-playing it on PSP and I have to say that I overlooked quite a bit on my first forays through it. I say the review is fairly fair. I don't agree with it all, but he isn't off an a wild tangent either. Likewise, I still regard FF9 as 'the last good one'.
man, that link went to a page of text way longer than I anticipated. so much for reading this before bed!
It's a shame IX is so overlooked. I'm playing through it now for the first time and I have found it to be nothing but immensely enjoyable.
I don't understand all the hate for Quina. The character doesn't add anything to the story, but it's a far f'ing cry from Jar Jar Binx.
Also, although the score has some pretty good pieces, it needed much more variation. What the crap are they talking about? Every battle had the same bgm, every boss battle had the same bgm, and the Bgm for about 3 distinct locations was just a slight variation on the world map theme.
I enjoyed the review overall though, and I like the person's writing style.
Last edited by beema; 08-13-2010 at 07:13 AM.
I stopped reading when I realized that most of the things that the author found lacking about FFIX are the same reason why I find it so endearing.
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I just skimmed through it, but I found it to be quite funny. While he does seem to attack the game a bit, even I can appreciate some of the faults he does pick up (and I love IX). Don't take it too seriously and everything's sweet.
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