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Thread: Robots Vs. Super Soldiers

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    Default Robots Vs. Super Soldiers

    Let's say it was possible to make these and now suppose we could have one. Which is a better military asset that would be more effective the giant robot (mecha) like Gundam or Front Mission or the super soldier like Master Chief and Zack Fair.

    This was actually a thread from the first forum I ever went to and I was actually really surprised how serious everyone took the question. Doubt that will happen here though.

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    Gundams aren't even robots, plus they don't make a lot of sense. Why put huge legs on a machine that can fly and float in the air anyway? What does it need arms and a head for?

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    What does it matter? Both options will inevitably turn on us anyway.

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    Hmmmm its interesting...

    Lets have Pros and Cons for the two.

    Mecha:

    Pros:

    You can easy swap weapons

    Carry more gross ton weight

    Can be upgraded

    Last longer.

    Cons:

    Is prohibitively expensive in terms of manufacturing
    Would take years of field testing before actually production models come out.

    Might squish an innocent civilian (provided that you're fighting on the side of good)

    Type of Fuel.


    Super Soldiers:

    Pros

    Can be trained easily.

    Think quickly of strategies and tactical defense

    field testing tends to be shorter.

    Longer endurance (as opposed to refueling by mechas)

    More S.S can be deployed at any given time.

    Sneak into confined spaces

    Cons:

    Drug side effects
    Shorter Shelf life (being KIA)
    Morals and Ethics




    Anyone can add to this btw

    I'm split on the matter!!


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    Robots have a lower chance to rebel against the superiors if the mission is considered suicidal. Super soldiers may be super versions of today's soldiers, but wouldn't they still be humans? They'd be "WTF?! Thay's crazy, I've got a family to feed!'

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    Yeah, I would trust the humans WAY less than I would trust the robots. I know the whole robot uprising thing, a la I, Robot and a million other science fiction movies is a viable option, but still... I feel like that is still way more controllable because it can be monitored (I assume someone would notice if robots were doing something a little different, such as, Will Smith, haha).

    Since one can't even attempt to control a human, I would trust super soldiers less, and they would be more fallible by nature anyway.

    Robots, man. Robots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Clo View Post
    Yeah, I would trust the humans WAY less than I would trust the robots. I know the whole robot uprising thing, a la I, Robot and a million other science fiction movies is a viable option, but still... I feel like that is still way more controllable because it can be monitored (I assume someone would notice if robots were doing something a little different, such as, Will Smith, haha).
    Yeah, but whoever steps up to stop them is going to get hammered by the critics.

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    Robits.

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    I saw Episode III and I'm pretty sure the Sith won that war.

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    If you notice the feeble attempt at logistics in the first few episodes of Evangelion (before it degraded to mindless psychology), a mecha takes a lot of energy - they had to give Unit 01 its own dedicated power cable.

    A super soldier, while its energy needs would be greater than usual, would not be as excessive. Also a super soilder is easier to control if s/he goes out of control (though those silly movies say otherwise). A mecha would wipe out most of a city before we could do anything about it, or even knew it was happening.

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    I'm not sure why a super soldier would need more energy than another person. Capt. America and Hulk have much more stamina than most human beings and some variations in comics didn't need sleep or eat on a regular basis.

    I would go with super soldiers because they are cooler. If they all have different powers though, then it could be a lot more difficult if a lot of them rebel. Someone also mentioned super soldiers going against suicide missions. Military leaders had tricked soldiers into that situation sometimes. Still could apply to super soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depression Moon View Post
    I'm not sure why a super soldier would need more energy than another person. Capt. America and Hulk have much more stamina than most human beings and some variations in comics didn't need sleep or eat on a regular basis.

    I would go with super soldiers because they are cooler. If they all have different powers though, then it could be a lot more difficult if a lot of them rebel. Someone also mentioned super soldiers going against suicide missions. Military leaders had tricked soldiers into that situation sometimes. Still could apply to super soldiers.


    I don't see why, given real life laws of thermodynamics, that a person who expends more energy than the average person (say a super soldier) would have to eat more/more often than the average sedentary American. Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depression Moon View Post
    I'm not sure why a super soldier would need more energy than another person. Capt. America and Hulk have much more stamina than most human beings and some variations in comics didn't need sleep or eat on a regular basis.
    ... and those were obviously scientific. Active people need to eat more than less active people.

    Anyway, I'd go with robots. They're just cooler. Although I would change my mind if I was made into a super soldier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Depression Moon View Post
    I'm not sure why a super soldier would need more energy than another person. Capt. America and Hulk have much more stamina than most human beings and some variations in comics didn't need sleep or eat on a regular basis.
    ... and those were obviously scientific. Active people need to eat more than less active people.

    Anyway, I'd go with robots. They're just cooler. Although I would change my mind if I was made into a super soldier.
    omg yes.

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    Is this supposed to be based on realism? That pic to me seemed like Supe was just being greedy and was trying to make up bull for them to feed his magically huge stomach and they wouldn't question him, since he's superman. A super soldier's power could be the ability to duplicate any cells or component in his body. ATP's give energy and with his power he could supply himself endlessly with it.

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