Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Cactuar View Post
cid- nuf said
basch- nuf said
zack fair- he is god!

edit: to kaiserdragon
cloud never fights zack. I'm guessing u meant sephiroth, but if you look at it, cloud beat sephiroth, but can no way beat ruby alone. Zack beat sephiroth, and he beat angeal, and he beat genesis, and he went on to beat minerva, who created every beast, including ruby and emerald, and is considered by many the toughest superboss eveer created.

Sorry for my rant, I am the biggest Zack Fair fan ever born
In the original FFVII Zack was defeted by Sephiroth, it was only after squeenix decided to milk the ffvii cow that they suddenly decided to change all that, oh and IMO Ruby was much harder then Minerva (who I beat having an easier time then I did with Ruby).

Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
A week later, Sephiroth sets Nibelheim's town ablaze and goes to the Mako reactor to take Jenova's body. While Zack fails to stop Sephiroth, Cloud throws Sephiroth into Mako, causing his body to disappear.
As I said, Cloud beat Sephiroth no doubt about it, hell you even get to see it happening in FFVII, also I submit this:

Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Nomura later called Sephiroth "the ultimate antagonist in the Final Fantasy VII saga. There can't be anyone else." and regarded him as an enemy from a previous generation in contrast to his "remnants" that later appear.
I would also like to point out that even if that were not so Sephiroth gained considerable power while surfing the Lifestream, thus no comparison can be made between Zack Fair and "the ultimate antagonist in the Final Fantasy VII saga" Cloud beat Sephiroth when he was at his absolute peak, Zack did not.

My source Wikipedia