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    Golden Sun. That game is awesome. Gameplay alone is incredible, since it is one of the only games to make successful dynamic character changes mid fight. It was able to tie all your abilities and stats together. It basically succeeds at the part of gameplay that FFVIII failed at. An amazing level of customization and flexibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    I have started back up on VIII. Just met Angelo in fact. Luckily VIII already uses the best part of Atelier Iris which was its nifty alchemy system.

    I may finish Revenant Wings eventually. I acquired Gilgamesh which was more of a pain in the ass then I wanted to be but I seriously don't want to grind to complete the missions for Bahamut and Zodiark which require me to be 20 levels higher (dear god the level jump in the last chapter is insane) but I came close to finishing the game I just lost at the last moment cause I miscalculated and didn't notice Penelo got taken out and he started spamming his Death Star beam attack and summoning Bahamut which took out the rest of my party rather quickly without her...
    WTF you've barely scratched the surface of DQVIII!!! Well, you may just be in for about 100 hours more of... more of the same, but the story is a classic DQ tale and you've just begun, so enjoy

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    I'd take Golden Sun and Revenant Wings off of the list. If you don't like them now you won't like them any more when you finish them. Plus I heard RW was a completely different game that they slapped FFXII stuff on about two thirds into production.

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    For me and a lot of fans however, its that they are the spiritual successors to the Shining franchise. Which themselves were insanely generic and had a tendency to be boring.
    Smurf you.
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    I'm a huge fan of the original Shining franchise (Shining in the Darkness up until Shining Force 3). But they did things I forgave and loved that other people would hate. And I get that. Their loss really. The magic worked on me. But I know it doesn't work on a lot of people. They're not very deep games. And they don't push a lot of boundaries in story or gameplay. They do a lot of cliche things and the characters are really 2-dimensional. But I love them regardless. So I wasn't really dogging on the games. Just accepting that they're not for a lot of people. They're really niche games



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyk View Post
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    For me and a lot of fans however, its that they are the spiritual successors to the Shining franchise. Which themselves were insanely generic and had a tendency to be boring.
    Smurf you.
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    I'm a huge fan of the original Shining franchise (Shining in the Darkness up until Shining Force 3). But they did things I forgave and loved that other people would hate. And I get that. Their loss really. The magic worked on me. But I know it doesn't work on a lot of people. They're not very deep games. And they don't push a lot of boundaries in story or gameplay. They do a lot of cliche things and the characters are really 2-dimensional. But I love them regardless. So I wasn't really dogging on the games. Just accepting that they're not for a lot of people. They're really niche games
    haha, nah i was joking man, I got that from your post that you were a big fan.

    As big of a fan I am of the series, especially replaying 2 again last year, I'm totally with you. The stories are indeed generic and the gameplay not very deep, but what really stood out in that era of gaming to me was the art style and the music. Having the actual battle turn screens drawn in near-illustrated manner made it very special, the use of color was nearly perfect in that game. Also, the music is great not just because of the ingenuity, but the way it sounded. There was something unique in that as well.

    And it sounds just as good as ever today with the new releases and collections.

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    In DQVIII, I learned that I am apparently not only really over-leveled but thanks to my OCD experimentation with Alchemy, better equipped than I should be. My party was ten levels higher than poor Angelo when he finally joined me so now I have to farm Metal Slimes to get him up to par.

    As for Golden Sun, I just got to Colosso and frankly the ship part was one of the more obnoxious things I had to deal with. I know its done that way to unlock a side quest but did they really have to have such a long intro for starting the ship to move and was it really necessary to make the player watch it every time you had to replace an oarsmen?!

    I'm not feeling the combat system, mostly cause I've yet to find a combination beyond keeping the characters within their own elements that benefit the characters very well. It feels like half the time that in order to make two characters extra powerful I have to sacrifice the quality of the other two. Let's throw in the fact the summon system is overpowered and abusive as all hell, I sometimes wonder what the point in playing with the class system does for me.

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    Why would anyone play a game they don't like? They'd rather waste $50 and 10, 20, 30 hours than just $50?

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    Mostly cause I don't have another $50 waste on another game I can learn to hate so I need to make do with my back stock.

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    Wouldn't you rather just not play a game than play a game you don't enjoy? Or just play something you've already played and you like?

    Why would you spend your free time doing something that doesn't make you happy and doesn't earn you anything?

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    Well to be fair, the only game I don't like I'm not playing. I actually like DQVIII it just got overshadowed by other games I wanted to play more of. The only reason why I'm playing through Golden Sun is because my GF is making me do it and part of me is still waiting to get to the part where this game deserves the praise it gets.

    I was only going to finish RW and Atelier Iris cause I happen to be at the end of both games (til I discovered I erased my AI file but that's hardly a loss) so it just seemed silly to stop playing when I'm literally ten minutes away from beating it.

    I mostly mentioned Atelier Iris cause I forgot I had it and I like bad mouthing it to piss off NeoCracker cause he knows its my twisted way of showing affection to him. Golden Sun was more of a clever way to rant about it without actually having to make a new thread.

    I actually like the rest of the games on my list, my issue is that I'm trying to pull myself away from games I've beaten a hundred times. I need some new games under my belt and I've got a whole stack of games I want to get through but all of these were titles I started and never finished. My OCD demands closure!

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    Golden sun gets awesome as soon as you turn it on. You might not be awesome enough to take it all in, though.

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    If Golden Sun is suppose to be awesome from the moment its turn on, then I have truly found myself in a world where the best I can hope for is mediocrity.

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    Stop being so jaded Wolfo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    If Golden Sun is suppose to be awesome from the moment its turn on, then I have truly found myself in a world where the best I can hope for is mediocrity.
    Yeah, that's totally what you should take away from that.

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