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    Raistlin, I'm glad you quoted me and was quick to point out the flaws to my argument except for one thing you didn't address the point made by me towards the end of the first paragraph. All software companies, games developers included are legally obligated to refund a person the money paid for a product should the person complain to them having refused to accept the EULA/TOS at least this is true in the united kingdom if this is not true in the usa then I'm sorry your countries consumer related laws are retarded. I've done this on a piece of software before.
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    Steve, I'm pretty sure that they're still not allowed to throw anything they want into the ToS. Somehow I don't think that a place with supposedly good consumer protection laws would not protect consumers, but would instead expect people to read every ToS they ever encounter and analyse it with knowledge of the law to properly understand and comprehend what it means before deciding whether to install or return something. That, in fact, seems to be the precise opposite of consumer protection.

    Also are you sure you're not referring to the 'cooling off' period created by the distance selling regulations or something? Because that has nothing to do with ToS.

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    They should just have added an achievement for the people that were detected as cheaters in singleplayer, so that everyone who actually cared about achievements would shut up.
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    without reading the thread, it has everything to do with trophies and score and the online community seeing it to evaluate you.

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    Of course, which is why disabling trophies for cheaters would be the logical non-dickery route to go
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    The problem is, there ARE cheats built in the game that stop you from getting trophies.

    These people are using hacks to play and GET those trophies. That's why they are being banned. I sort of agree with it, since that goes into your public profile and score. While it does not affect your online ranking, I suppose it might make others think you are better than you are.

    I think the accounts should be wiped, but not banned.

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    If they're suing people who create online cheats then all power to them. Wireframe ruined Ravenshield, just like countless other hacks have the ability to ruin other online experiences.

    This is retarded though; "The harm to Blizzard from Defendants’ conduct is immediate, massive and irreparable." Something tells me that the hacks haven't made even a dent in the monolith that is Blizzard.

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    how did you miss the part where these cheats have nothing to do with the online multiplayer part of the game

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    That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Just forces people to use real cracks, which there are plenty for SC2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kotora View Post
    how did you miss the part where these cheats have nothing to do with the online multiplayer part of the game
    The achievement hack is ONE of the cheats they've been banning people for using. Did you honestly think they'd go after people who cheat in single player and completely ignore those who cheat in online?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blizzard via a Gamespot article
    "In addition to undermining the spirit of fair competition that's essential to play on Battle.net, cheating and hacking can lead to stability and performance issues with the service," the company's statement read. "Maintaining a stable, safe, and secure online-gaming experience for legitimate players is a top priority for us, and we'll be continuing to keep watch on Battle.net and take action as needed."
    Quote Originally Posted by Blizzard via another Gamespot article
    "Just days after the release of Starcraft II, Defendants already had developed, marketed, and distributed to the public a variety of hacks and cheats designed to modify (and in fact destroy) the Starcraft II online game experience.

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    Zero mention has been made of people making hacks for multiplayer and it's completely beside the point anyway. Quoting them on their marketing bull talk ("online game experience" might just as well just refer to achievements) doesn't change that.

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    Zero mention has been made of them suing people for the achievement hacks, the lawsuit came at a time when they are cracking down on hackers of every type, doesn't mean that they're specifically suing people who created that one cheat. They're not commenting on litigation so there's no point stating that this lawsuit is directly related to the bans issued to single player cheaters.

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    I haven't seen any reason to tie the two news stories together. There is no reason to believe they are targeting companies that make achievement hacks specifically. (It doesn't say they aren't either)

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