I hate sports manager games... seriously... wtf is the point? your always in a menu its the most boring thing in the world... I would rather watch paint dry.
Football games... all of them, I'm with Iceglow on that front, why sim a game when you can play the real thing.
Don't know why racing games get so much negativity, Forza Motorsport is on of my all time favorite games.
Why play racing games when you can drive real cars?
Sports games. Any. And I'm not a huge fan of racing games, unless they have a well implemented gimmick so that its not JUST driving around in a convoluted "circle" as fast as you can. I don't go out of my way to play Burnout or Flatout. But I have really enjoyed them from time to time. But they're about the only racing games of that nature
Also seriously open-world sand-box games like GTA. I'm with everyone else on that. I really never found out what the appeal was. The story wasn't very driven or gripping. So the real point of the game for most people is to just run around and cause havoc which gets old really quick. Conversely, interestingly enough, I thoroughly enjoyed both Saints Row games. Because they actually do drive the story and make the plot feel important. And you can go around and rain hell. But they managed to make it so its just as fun to play the actual game. Hard to place my finger on the exact difference. But -usually- Saints Row > GTA
Mario/Zelda/Metroid to a much less degree. Played them all before. Pretty much the same for any Nintendo franchise though. I tried Twilight Princess recently, and just couldn't get into it. Never got into Wind Waker either. The quirky silence. The slow running from here to there. The pattern's all the same. The play-style is all the same. Which is great when you like that kinda thing. I loved New Super Mario Bros. And then I tried it for Wii. Pretty good. Same old same old, really. And it got old really quickly. I'd say its because I have nobody to play with, but that's not the point with Metroid and Zelda. And I've only ever tried Metroid games. I own Metroid Prime. I've played the old school ones on emulators. I never beat a single one. Again, too much lather rinse repeat
I will say MOST FPS games turn me off for the same reason. I never beat Halo 2. And even trying Halo 3 was a chore. Halo ODST was different, but still just not my thing. I can't imagine how people play Modern Warfare, Halo 3, or Gears for hours and hours on end. Though there have been a few sparse sprinklings of fun and enjoyable FPS games. I really did like the first Gears game and would probably like the others. But they're short, brutal, and intense. A quick fun ride. Not something I'd clock in 200 hours in multi-player with though, but at least I enjoyed the single-player campaign
Which is another thing. I loathe games that have a single player campaign as an afterthought. Which is pretty much all FPS games at this point. That's the main reason I can't get into Halo 3 or Modern Warfare. The campaigns were just barely there. Short, not very intense, just there to fill out the game. Which now that I think about it is kinda a problem with a lot of simulation games. Racing games are very much just drive around in a circle. How is that supposed to be fun? I remember SEGA used to have some racing game with some anime story going on in between racing with rivalries and stuff. And I think you had to do more than just race. So that was an interesting idea. I'm guessing the "airplane" games suffer from the same problem
Also, I'm rambling. So I'm gonna stop now. Break's almost over at work
WK: Most of that is because Fallout 3 is not very good. Play one of the first two, or even New Vegas, and you'll have a different experience, imho.
I agree on the morality front for sure. Way too much of it is just derp good or evil in a simplistic fashion.
Because 99% of the population can't afford as cool cars as you can play in the games.Originally Posted by Roto13
Also, because the risk of dying is much higher in real life.
everything is wrapped in gray
i'm focusing on your image
can you hear me in the void?
Not to seem like I'm trying to convince someone who doesn't like racing games to like racing games (because that would be pointless and isn't my intention), but if they were truly as simple as drive around in a circle then no one would play them. But there is a lot of depth to the gameplay and the skill required to do well can be tremendous, which is what draws in fans of games like Gran Turismo. If you're looking for something besides just well made or skill based gameplay though then those games will never suit you.
Mass Effect 2 is really the only WRPG I could get into (I need to play the first one, I know!). Like Wolf Kanno was saying, I can't really bring myself to feel attached to anyone in most, and some of them just plain bore me. But of course I'm the type that buys JRPGs because of the oddly high cutscene to gameplay ratio. I thought ME2 was great because you really do feel for your teammates and the events leading up to the final boss were just amazing. People can die (everyone can die) and it really gets to you.
(SPOILER)I was so bummed when watching my boyfriend play and seeing poor Tali all alone in her casket at the end. Guess which character he romanced
Yeah, ask me when I cosplayed as Teddy.
EDIT: You know what made those games so great? The open-endedness and the ability to make the protaganist whoever you wanted. The ability to build relationships in your way and in your pace. It was very much like a WRPG in those regards, despite having JRPG skin.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE JRPG's. But having such a spectator story is a minus unless it's very, very good.
EDIT2: In Baldur's Gate II, for example, I had party members whom all had varying thoughts of me, some twisting to be my enemies. I was good and selfless, but also a smartass. I was smart, but often superficial. I was charismatic, but also mean-spirited and I could pick it up and be a totally different character in my next playthrough. All of my party members had their own endings, many varying depending on how I treated them. They had their own quests and would talk to the party members and the player on conversations ranging from petty flirts to moral debates. I had to fight a friend to win the girl.
There is a situation in the game in which I had to choose between two clearly evil factions and calculate which of the two are the lesser of which to reach my more noble goal.
I had the oppurtunity to become a Slayer at my choosing in which I become extremely powerful but at the risk of ripping apart my allies and becoming more "evil" as a result.
I could navigate through hell with whatever moral compass I wanted, sometimes my charity being met with devastating consequences.
I had to choose which of my party members would LIVE or DIE.
THAT is immersive. Each path is as fleshed out as the other and is dramatic and deep. Not many games can claim to do that, yet Baldur's Gate II did.
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Ok Roto you go buy me a Bugatti Veyron to take for a test spin at 200mph round the local race track and then for the next car I'll have A Lamborghini Murcielago =) average cost of these two cars alone? (Bugatti = £686,200.00 Murcielago = £308,357.00 average prices taken from google searching them) nearly £1,000,000.00 sterling. I think I'll stick to Forza at £39.99 for now
Yeah I think you may have missed his point dude.Ok Roto you go buy me a Bugatti Veyron to take for a test spin at 200mph round the local race track and then for the next car I'll have A Lamborghini Murcielago =) average cost of these two cars alone? (Bugatti = £686,200.00 Murcielago = £308,357.00 average prices taken from google searching them) nearly £1,000,000.00 sterling. I think I'll stick to Forza at £39.99 for now
I hate sports games (mainly because I hate sports in real life), and I've also never been too fond of shooting games like Halo, though some are alright like Metroid games.
No I got his point but his point was very flawed. In real life the chances of me getting to drive a Bugatti Veyron or a Lamborghini Murcielago are next to none, the chances I can go down a park and kick a ball around? Well it might be 03:22am right now but if I wanted to I am pretty sure I could go out now and kick a ball around. So I might never be a professional footballer but the difference is when you're playing a football simulator or something else like that you're basically going with the childhood thing of going "oh look look I'm David Beckham!" or equally stupid claims whilst playing football in the playground when you're doing a racing game such as Forza, Gran Turismo or Burnout or any number of other racing car games you're not claiming to be another person who you envy or desire to be you're playing the role of an "unnamed" driver who is working their way to the top driving cars most guys would only dream of driving in their lives.Yeah I think you may have missed his point dude.Ok Roto you go buy me a Bugatti Veyron to take for a test spin at 200mph round the local race track and then for the next car I'll have A Lamborghini Murcielago =) average cost of these two cars alone? (Bugatti = £686,200.00 Murcielago = £308,357.00 average prices taken from google searching them) nearly £1,000,000.00 sterling. I think I'll stick to Forza at £39.99 for now
That's a pretty flimsy argument. If you want to go play an actual game of soccer right now, you probably won't be able to make it happen, and you won't be able to play at the level the characters in a soccer game play (ever) and playing a soccer game and playing an actual game of soccer are two very different things anyway.
So are racing actual cars and playing a racing game, by the way. Sorry if that's like hearing Santa Claus doesn't exist.
If I wanted to go play football right now I bet I could make it happen in fact I know I could, thats the sad thing about having friends what would join me in such lunacy. Also I'll grant you, I might not ever personally play a game of football at professional standard that doesn't automatically make myself and every other non-professional footballer out there "crap" or "" and doesn't mean that I could not practice doing the same moves as they perform to learn the same sort of skills (doesn't mean I'd be professional same as being good at dancing games or singing games doesn't make you a professional dancer or singer) to use against my friends or in a sunday league game. Also playing sunday league football can get you noticed in a positive way, a sunday league footballer who plays well could end up in his local conference team from there he could get noticed by division 2 teams and so forth eventually he could theoretically get to premiership football. He won't do that playing Fifa or Pro Evo. As for racing cars? Well most people cannot afford the cars and cannot afford the track days either to practice racing cars or bikes in a safe environment. Therefore we're talking they'd go racing round the streets late at night ect. Alls well and good you say until the police notice you for breaking the law and arrest you and you end up with no drivers liscense, a criminal record and either a prison sentence or a fine. It's a lot safer and more enjoyable and cheaper (consider this: Fifa 11? £39.99, a leather case football? £9.99 you pay more to sit on your arse and get fat then you do to go learn how to play football yourself) to therefore race cars in a virtual environment.
Sorry if I'm making your argument invalidated but well you canadians shouldn't argue about football with us brits especially since most canadians couldn't even name a conference team or know what the sunday leagues are :P
By that logic you should never play video games ever.
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