Mass Effect 3

[Freya]

ME1 SPOILER Wrex gets all angry at something and you have the choice to put him down or talk him out of it. Honestly he didn't seem that angry to me when i played it so I don't know why you'd have to shoot him. But if you don't have a ME1 save file it just makes your ME2 start off as if they went renegade. If you save him in 1 then he's the leader of the Krogan in 2.

EDIT BY BoB: spoiler tags are better than just saying "SPOILER"

[kotora]

Just finished ME2 on the PC with my female renegade/paragon Shepard (who is much more interesting to play with than the generic hero type dude Shepard I had on my xbox save). Too bad nobody died because a bit of extra drama would've added to the suspense for the last part of the trilogy.

also kinda lame how they had a special credit song for ME1 and replaced with some ingame track in the sequel. Seems weird seeing how the production values are much higher for the second one with its fancy voice actors and whatnot.

[Jessweeee♪]

Kill everyone, it's awesome!

I finally finished my importable worst ME2 file ever. Then post-game I killed (SPOILER)Zaeed on his loyalty mission, though I have a feeling that could come back to haunt me in ME3. I tried so hard to recruit (SPOILER)Morinth, but eventually I ran out of things to do to raise my Renegade score. There were a few loyalty missions left, but uh, I wanted to kill people, so I couldn't do too many of those. Unfortunately I didn't pay good enough attention to my notes, so I have three surviving squadmates instead of two. And I forgot that I didn't need to send Dr. Chakwas and escort, so she's still hanging around. But it's bad enough I guess.

[kotora]

What does it take to get people to die? Garrus died on my Xbox save while holding off those swarmy things while the circumstances were pretty much the same (did just as much loyalty missions and didn't even get all the ship upgrades)

[Jessweeee♪]

There are quite a few factors. Getting everyone to live is simple enough by just following a few guidelines and choosing the "correct" people for all tasks. In your case, you probably chose someone other than Jack or Samara to do the biotic barrier. Not choosing one of them (or choosing an unloyal Jack/Samara) will have one of your squadmates taken by the swarm, and Garrus has high priority on that particular list.


If you're interested in the details, this is pretty helpful. Obviously spoilery:

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[kotora]

That's a pretty helpful guide. Now I just have to decide if I'm gonna redo the final mission. I feel like it would make for a less authentic role playing feel if I just loaded up my save and made bad tactical decisions.

[Iceglow]

ME1 SPOILER Wrex gets all angry at something and you have the choice to put him down or talk him out of it. Honestly he didn't seem that angry to me when i played it so I don't know why you'd have to shoot him. But if you don't have a ME1 save file it just makes your ME2 start off as if they went renegade. If you save him in 1 then he's the leader of the Krogan in 2.

EDIT BY BoB: spoiler tags are better than just saying "SPOILER"

Ok lets actually correct this badly spoilered spoiler...

(SPOILER)Wrex is Krogan, (duh) well the Krogan once threatened to overwhelm the citadel council. The Citadel Council had relied upon the Krogan to reduce a fast breeding, highly aggressive insectile race called the Rachni to rubble. However much like the old story of the woman who got the spider to swallow the fly, the Krogan end up expanding rapidly, especially considering their own genetic disposition towards lizards where a single female Krogan can birth thousands of babies over her lifetime (some 400+ years if not killed in battle in ME terms) as a response to the new threat of a Krogan domination of the council space the council utilize a biological weapon created by the Salarians and have it distributed by the Turian fleets in what was to be the end of a brutal and bloody war called the Krogan Rebellions. The biological weapon known as the Genophage doesn't render the Krogan impotent or infertile what it does is merely brings their rate of reproduction back to a pre-industrial rate. Meaning in a clutch of thousands a handful will survive to adulthood and even then the Krogan have a disposition towards males. [sources for information: ME1 Codex entries, ME2 Mordin's history, he worked on a modification to the Genophage during his time with the STG to keep it working, as he said Genocide is wrong and was not necessary, control was.]

In Mass Effect on the planet Virmire, where either Kaidan Alenko or Ashley Williams will also die, Shepherd discovers that Saren has a cloning facility which can if not eradicate/cure the Genophage bypass it entirely by churning out vat grown adult, genetic clones of Krogans. Either way it spells bad news for the Council controlled space and especially the Turians and Salarians who invented and distributed the Genophage weapon as Krogans are likely to want revenge. Shepherd decides this facility must be destroyed at all costs. Wrex however knowing that his species will become extinct at the current rate of their desire, no their need to fight attempts to stop Shepherd. If Shepherd has enough renegade or paragon stats then you can talk Wrex down from blasting you point blank with his shotgun. If however Shepherd is renegade but doesn't have the renegade stats required to force Wrex to back down he will fight Wrex and Wrex will die. If Shepherd is paragon then whilst he tries to talk down the furious yet determined Wrex to no avail will be saved by Ashley Williams striding in putting a pistol round through Wrex's face also killing him. (character who saves Shepherd may be modified by the relationship Shepherd has, however on the times I have done this only Ashley has saved him)

Wrex's paragon/renegade challenge requires a minimum 75% of either one to select. This is if I remember correctly the highest requirement of any challenge for speech in the entire first game. However considering the player has at this point had the chance to explore the galaxy on sub quests/play through the storyline on Eden Prime, The Citadel, Ferros, Noveria and Therum. The player should have enough points to select it. Success is all but assured if the player spends time talking to Wrex between planetfalls/missions he will eventually reveal a personal mission to retrieve his ancestral clan/family armour. Performing this mission will allow the player to pass the challenge with 75.1% renegade/paragon points. Should the player ignore this mission it is likely even with the required renegade or paragon points the player will fail and Wrex will join Kaidan or Ashley in the casualties list.

That is how you spoil the thing properly :P

Oh and as for Male/Female Ashley/Kaidan survival for ME2 new characters, I'll look in to that at some point won't take long to find out just a few hours. However it does appear that the main parts of the storyline are taken from the Renegade's point of view of the galaxy, well at least thats how female, spacer and ruthless turns out though thinking on it more I'm thinking the renegade story set up was kind of determined by my own personal claim to fame.

[Freya]

I didn't think Jess wanted tons of details to go through, if she wanted that i'm sure she'd just play the first game. But thanks for putting the effort into typing all that out. I'm sure someone will read it

[Jessweeee♪]

I was just watching someone else play and Legion did the coolest thing! Shepard was on his way to all of his favorite stores on the Citadel when Legion started beat boxing while doing the robot.

[kotora]

I always kept Legion in my party ever since I got him because he has the best one-liners. Apparently they had some extra lines scripted for him in missions that take place before the one with the Reaper IFF, which can be heard if you haxx the game. Maybe I will in another playthrough before ME3 comes out.