Yes but when a large segment, indeed the majority, of a genre diverges from the genre-definers, you've not found very good genre-definers. During the 90s C&C and WC were absolutely central, but that has changed, and I don't think you can proclaim them to be quite so central anymore; their time of influence has passed and new ideas have begun to emerge, and to simply hold those two up as the be-all and end-all of innovation in the genre is a pretty big shortfall.