Quote Originally Posted by Shoden View Post
They're just a good show band, they put a lot of money and effort into the show but. Then again. Isn't that to make a maximum profit from the show? And get more people to come to their shows?
KISS are just the absolute cliche of glam rock times a thousand and still to this day they are.

It all about money! I do agree about that. Its the same formula, change your image and music to gain popularity.
A fashion show with a bunch of mediocre musicians posing on stage going through songs that angsty teengirls would orgasm over. XD

What exactly the scene band thing is, is that there are hundreds upon hundreds of bands doing the exact same thing with the exact same formulas for being a band. I can't tell the difference between You Me At Six, My Chemical Romance, Bring Me The Horizon, Black Dahlia Murder, Cryptosy or Whitechapel XD there's probably MORE Trivium, Killswitch Engage, Machine Head, Bullet for My Valentine, Funeral For a Friend. They're all clones of one and other I swear.

That's what I don't like, they're all trying to be one and other, nothing unique, nothing new, special and this is what's killing metal. There's less bands wanting to be original and revolutionary and more bands that want to stick to this trap. =\ They call themselves metal so I'll humour them and evn if I don't classify these bands as metal, well that doesn't matter in the comparison, unless you're Dragonforce and call yourself EXTREME METAL!
Nothing compares to Disciples of Babylon, Revelations, and Fields of Despair. Ohhhh, I get goose bumps. Anyway.

I don't think KISS is a good show band. That's the point I'm trying to make you consider, Shoden. It's my opinion, but it's also only your opinion that the "scene" bands are unoriginal sell outs. I listen to bands that have a similar sound to KISS, but don't have the same doucher aura around them. I dislike KISS, but not specifically for the music. I just think that if there's any band here that doesn't care about the music or the show any more, it's KISS. They just do it for the paycheck. Once again, my opinion.

How many bands sell the same sound and image as Dragon Force? Ass loads. Why? Because it's all power/fantasy metal. (Extreme metal whatever). Dragon Force is not original either. You have Iron Savior, Gamma Ray, Galneryus, Sonata Artica, Stratovarius. The list goes on, and on. They all have the same tight pants, long hair, leather jackets, the same song structure, and the same 5 minute guitar solos. I still think they are all awesome. They just aren't original. They do nothing to push the metal scene forward. They have their genre, and I'm fine with that.

You just enjoy the music, so you can appreciate their show, their merch, their fans, and their "scene" more.

If you can't tell the difference between My Chemical Romance and Whitechapel, well just wow.....You might not like certain genres of metal, but there is obviously a difference. MCR isn't even metal.

If anything the "scene" bands are pushing forward a newer genre of metal than any of the bands you've mentioned. You might not like their sound/sounds (many of the bands you mentioned have different sounds), but it's shaking things up. Yes, there are many bands that sound alike in the "scene" band area, but that's the point I'm trying to make. There are a TON of unoriginal bands in every metal genre. That doesn't mean they aren't talented, or that they're stagnating metal. It just means they aren't the band for you. There's nothing wrong with that. Everyone has their own personal tastes in music.

The freshest sounds coming from metal are the bands I mentioned several posts ago that you said you'd listen to. On a side note, I really am curious to see what you thought of them.