Mafia XVIII Game Thread: Welcome To The Soul Society

[[M] Felix]

Out of typical roles, Governer is about the only thing that makes sense, though the possobility of a new role is interesting.

However, it's kind of unimportant when considering Gin's innocence. If it was a governer, they simply thought the day was too rash. If it was a pro-mafia, they were either protecting their own to delay it a day, or protecting a town for some unknown reason.

And honestly, Shinji confuses me.

And while I bite this MIGHT be them trying to set up Gin even more, I dont' see why they'd bother. He already had the most heat out of everyone, so why not go for people you think could do more harm? Gin was a near sure lynch anyway at this point.

That taken into consideration, the death of Ichigo is way to convenient, as well as Soifon prior to this.

I have no explanation for the Zenpachi death however. That one just boggles me.

Yoru bothers me for the same reason as before. She shows up, makes a bunch of already made claims as if she herself had thought of them, voted oddly, then dissociated again.

Given your lack of involvement prior to her vote, you being a replacement and all, It seems as if she was trying to go for a 'safe' vote that wouldn't get much flack.

Had she at least stuck around or put anything new on the table, I'd not think much of it, but nothing about her has come across as pro town in the slightest.

I'm not sure who I'd vote for as of now however, Gin or Yoru.

Assuming Gin is innocent, the Mafia could save him to buy them another lynch of a stronger player as well as buy more time in general.

I share your sentiments on Yoru. However, I still think Gin is the most logical target. He has done a very poor job of defending himself, as well as those that continually try to prevent his lynch. The deaths of Ichigo and Soifon proved very beneficial for that group in general. I don't want to play int the Mafia's hands if I'm wrong, but this sleepy game is certainly not pointing to any other singificant threats.

One must also consider his voting history. All of his votes were non-mafia roles, none of which he contributed any evidence in and generally joining bandwagons. He even changed his vote from Soifon to Aizen to create a tie, in which Jin, who has been defending him recently, hopped on at the chance, again with no logic of his own.

Re: Cult Leader -- We must consider the possibility there was already a Cultist at the beginning, plus the (likely) chance another was recruited last night (as Shinji said).

So it appears that Soifon was a Cult Leader. This appears to be good for us now that she's out of the way so no more can join her stupid cult. Is she the only Cultist, or is there more lurking among us?

There's you, agreeing with Hitsugya and Shinji wouth actually adding anything. Example one.

Yoruichi]/quote]Ichigo darling, Gin Ichimaru's reasoning was bad, yes, but it was grasping at straws early. There's no real need for anyone to post reasoning for votes that early in the game. Would a scum feel required to post justification? Probably, it helps to avoid
being called out if you give a reason. But that was such a ridiculous claim so early on that I'm tempted to think it was just, well, early game nonsense.

##vote:Aizen. Gin may have had a weak point, but at least it's a point.

Jin already pointed out that it was a weak point, though its' still not much a reason to vote for him yet. Example two.

And there was actually me voting Gin as well, in addition to the one Gin voting for turning up non-mafia.

That being said, you did turn out to not be going after Gin in that first post, so my apologies there. Doesn't really change the fact Jin already made a defense of him along the same lines as your defense of him now.

All points still stand, as well as you coming in once again and making a whole lot of noise without actually saying anything, and voting Kisuke on weak grounds.

Sorry, but I'm breaking the agreement Kisuke, but Yoru should die now.

##unvote Gin
##vote: Yoruichi

You offered nothing new up until you called Bull on Yoru's claim, something ANYONE would have done at that point.
Other then that, what did you offer that I already hadn't?

Nothing, you called cause you couldnt stop her lynch at that point. I'd voted for her on suspicions prior to that, which hadn't voiced yet, and you really didn't voice anything against her until this point. Nothing that was telling of her guilt and what not.

I'll drag up posts on the next lynch as well.