Do you want Nolan's Batman to get a sequel trilogy?...

[Dreddz]

we'll get another talentless hack like Joel Schumacher

Show some respect. Thats the man who directed The Lost Boys your talking about.

[Bunny]

I vote Hollywood takes a break from shoveling out superhero nonsense drivel and deliver a unique story.

Either that integrate porn into everything.

When was the last time that Hollywood had ever done anything that we wanted in the super hero genre before Christopher Nolan came along?

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[Psychotic]

No. It's great, but too much of a good thing and all that. Nothing ever lasts forever.

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

A new director will probably try to do their own thing rather than keep up with any previous mythos.

Yeah, I know. It's called a reboot and it must be something that comic book fans and movie goers in general, are getting sick of by now.

Still, considering the rather positive fan reaction to Nolan's version, it may be years before we see another good Batman film as either, (A) most director's might be too intimidated to follow up Nolan's films out of fear of not being able to live up to fan expectations.

Well, if you're a film director and you're worried about fan reactions, to the point of slavish devotion, you shouldn't be making movies in the first place. Because at the end of the day if you're a director you're making these movies for yourself and for the big fat paycheck that's gonna come in the mail.

Or...(B) we'll get another talentless hack like Joel Schumacher who will run the franchise into the ground again and force another director to rise years later to bring the series back to it's roots.

Either way, I'm not expecting another Batman movie for a very long time.

First of all, I think Joel Schumacher made a terrific movie when he did Phone Booth but I haven't familiarized myself with any of his other work. Second of all, while another franchise implosion is a possibility, I'd like to think that the WB is smart enough to learn from their mistakes by putting a few provisos in the contract but maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

[Wolf Kanno]

we'll get another talentless hack like Joel Schumacher

Show some respect. Thats the man who directed The Lost Boys your talking about.

Touche

Yeah, I know. It's called a reboot and it must be something that comic book fans and movie goers in general, are getting sick of by now.

I generally hate, hearing the idea of "reboot" cause it usually means the previous story crashed and burn and while some are legitimate, I'm pretty happy with Nolan's films so I can't say that after Dark Knight Rising I'll be ready to see a new film in the next two years. Despite loving the first two Nolan films, I can't say I've been waiting in anticipation for the third film. Hell, I'm rarely waiting for a film to come out but I blame it on not being a movie guy anymore.

Well, if you're a film director and you're worried about fan reactions, to the point of slavish devotion, you shouldn't be making movies in the first place. Because at the end of the day if you're a director you're making these movies for yourself and for the big fat paycheck that's gonna come in the mail.

If you want to keep making the money though, you have to concede to some fan and studio demands. Most directors don't just say "screw the script, let me tell you how I've envisioned this" most who do, tend to be the ones who don't get a chance to make a sequel.

The issue here is that if a director tackled a new film and fans end up hating it and the film bombs, you're going to have a hard time finding work afterwards or be forever reminded of your turd of a film. Considering how well Dark Knight did, Nolan himself has to worry about the new film being a success. Generally, it's intimidating for any creative producer to tackle an old IP that has been done extremely well. Regardless of coming up with your own unique and fun vision, it will still be compared to the old versions and consequently get an unfair rep because it doesn't live up to the unrealistic expectations and nostalgia vision of the older fan base.

Second of all, while another franchise implosion is a possibility, I'd like to think that the WB is smart enough to learn from their mistakes by putting a few provisos in the contract but maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

I don't think WB is completely stupid and would probably try to keep away from the bad elements that sunk the franchise in the first place. Course there is always some stuff they could do that no one thought about that could make the series bad. Who knows.

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

Well, if you're a film director and you're worried about fan reactions, to the point of slavish devotion, you shouldn't be making movies in the first place. Because at the end of the day if you're a director you're making these movies for yourself and for the big fat paycheck that's gonna come in the mail.

If you want to keep making the money though, you have to concede to some fan and studio demands. Most directors don't just say "screw the script, let me tell you how I've envisioned this" most who do, tend to be the ones who don't get a chance to make a sequel.

The issue here is that if a director tackled a new film and fans end up hating it and the film bombs, you're going to have a hard time finding work afterwards or be forever reminded of your turd of a film. Considering how well Dark Knight did, Nolan himself has to worry about the new film being a success. Generally, it's intimidating for any creative producer to tackle an old IP that has been done extremely well. Regardless of coming up with your own unique and fun vision, it will still be compared to the old versions and consequently get an unfair rep because it doesn't live up to the unrealistic expectations and nostalgia vision of the older fan base.

I agree that directors should be worried about fan reaction, but only to an extent. If they're concerned about it to the point of slavish devotion, they shouldn't be working in the movie industry at all. Because if you're confident enough about the story that you have but you're still worried about the critical reaction, it's time to quit your job and walk away.

Second of all, while another franchise implosion is a possibility, I'd like to think that the WB is smart enough to learn from their mistakes by putting a few provisos in the contract but maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

I don't think WB is completely stupid and would probably try to keep away from the bad elements that sunk the franchise in the first place. Course there is always some stuff they could do that no one thought about that could make the series bad. Who knows.

Such as?

No. It's great, but too much of a good thing and all that. Nothing ever lasts forever.

Yeah, I know. It's just that, we've never had a Batman series that has progressed before we've always had this concept of directors disregarding previous film continuity and going off into a different direction. It's getting old. I think regardless of whether The Dark Knight Rises is a flop or not, they should continue on in Nolan's Bat-film continuity, but maybe not right away. Maybe if Warner Bros does a poll asking the fans if they want a sequel trilogy to The Dark Knight Rises and they say "No," maybe just maybe Warner Bros could wait a long ass time before they release anymore Batman movies. Maybe they could deprive the fans of their Batman to the point of desperation. To the point where artists are singing about it on the radio, fans are getting tattoos of Batman and fans are just begging and pleading for it.

[Del Murder]

I think a second trilogy would be overdoing it quite a bit.

[Loony BoB]

I can see it now: The Coen Brothers redo Batman Begins.

Basically, it's the same movie, but they cut out the climax and the ending. Still, it must be pointed out that they had some superb camera angles. Oscars are won.

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

I think a second trilogy would be overdoing it quite a bit.

I can see it now: The Coen Brothers redo Batman Begins.

Basically, it's the same movie, but they cut out the climax and the ending. Still, it must be pointed out that they had some superb camera angles. Oscars are won.

You guys are okay with Warner Bros. just rebooting Batman every eight-to-ten-to-fifteen years? I mean what's the point of watching another reboot if you know or assume that Warner Bros. is just gonna outright kill that continuity within the seven year span of a second sequel? (a.k.a threequel?)

[Loony BoB]

If you couldn't tell by my post, I do not want the Coen brothers to direct any Batman movie. I, too, would like for continuity. But it won't happen.

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

If you couldn't tell by my post, I do not want the Coen brothers to direct any Batman movie. I, too, would like for continuity. But it won't happen.

Yeah, I know it won't happen....Unless the people, the fans, ban together and boycott any Batman film that doesn't follow Christopher Nolan's continuity, but that won't happen either. You wanna know why? Because people are idiots. And just because one minority of people does or doesn't want something, doesn't mean it's going to evolve into a revolution where the revolutionaries ultimately end up getting what they want.

[Loony BoB]

Also, Christopher Nolan is a smart enough man to know that six Batman movies is too much for one director. No great director has done that because after a while, you just want to do something else. You finish with one thing and move on to another. And Nolan certainly has many other things he can move on to.

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

Also, Christopher Nolan is a smart enough man to know that six Batman movies is too much for one director. No great director has done that because after a while, you just want to do something else. You finish with one thing and move on to another. And Nolan certainly has many other things he can move on to.

Everybody assumes that I WANT Christopher Nolan to direct TWO Batman Trilogies but I assure you guys that it isn't the case. I merely want Batman to get the James Bond treatment in that, different directors and different cast members all share the same continuity that began in 2005 with Batman Begins. But that's not gonna happen. Obviously.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Why do you want that? Comic books get rebooted and retconned all the time. o_O

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

Why do you want that? Comic books get rebooted and retconned all the time. o_O

But do you really want that with the superhero movie genre?