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    I did like most of the latest episode, The Rains of Castamere.

    I especially liked that Catelyn took Lady Frey hostage as a last resort. In the books, she takes a lackwit grandson of Walder Frey hostage in a desperate attempt to save Robb and stop the fighting. Unfortunately, the only one she is able to get to in time is someone he cares little for. In the show, she is able to make a more calculated move in taking Lady Frey hostage, giving more credibility to her character and making it look like less of a last ditch effort. The result is the same, regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    Poor Grey Wind and Lady.
    Oh man I hate that too

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    But Robb wasn't making a claim to the Iron Throne, he was bidding for independence, so the legitimacy or otherwise of his claim on it is meaningless.

    (That was aimed at Del, I am too dumb to know when there's a new page)

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    As far as I remeber in the books it says Catelyn was not supposed to be killed but ended up dead as she killed a Frey (someone can correct me if I'm wrong). So right until her dying breath she smurfed up.

    In truth the Red Wedding is a chapter I skip in re-reads. I jsut can't do it. i read it once and that was it. However I agree with Psy. The big picture is being lost here. People are still thinkng Game Of Thrones is Stark Vs Lannister. It's not. It never was. The'yre just 2 of the three houses we met in book 1. The scope is far wider than that. There are no comfortable plot ties that will settle everone down,. Don't get me wrong the antagonists dont always win but neither to the protagonists. It's a mirror on reality where everyone gets trout on at some point and in the far north there are a race of humanoids that are willing to trout on everyone, equally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulainn View Post
    As far as I remeber in the books it says Catelyn was not supposed to be killed but ended up dead as she killed a Frey (someone can correct me if I'm wrong). So right until her dying breath she smurfed up.
    I'm really not sure attempting to save your remaining son's life after you've also had a crossbow quarrel through the shoulder as well is smurfing up.

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    If all he wanted was the North then why the hell would he march on Casterly Rock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Adequate View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulainn View Post
    As far as I remeber in the books it says Catelyn was not supposed to be killed but ended up dead as she killed a Frey (someone can correct me if I'm wrong). So right until her dying breath she smurfed up.
    I'm really not sure attempting to save your remaining son's life after you've also had a crossbow quarrel through the shoulder as well is smurfing up.
    I was being facetious. Everyone blames her for everything, i was playing along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    If all he wanted was the North then why the hell would he march on Casterly Rock?
    The Lannister's had his father executed, kidnapped his sisters, and weren't very likely to let Robb just sit up in the North and keep to himself if he wasn't willing to swear allegiance to Joffrey. It was either take the fight to them or sit up there and wait for them to come to him. In fairness, his plan was working until he cocked it all up with his cock.

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    Robb declared war on the Lannisters over his father's captivity/death. The goal was revenge (presumably through Joffrey's and Tywin's heads) and to rescue his sisters. It was shortly thereafter that Robb also laid his claim as King of the North and declared independence as well. So while the North was Robb's only political goal, and Huxley is right that Robb never sought the Iron Throne, the reason Robb continued the invasion regardless was to avenge his father and get Sansa and Arya back.

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    Wars based on revenge never end well. I still think he should have holed away up North, declared himself king, and let the Lannisters try to remark otherwise in the freezing cold.

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    Robb's okay at tactics but he's pretty terrible at strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Adequate View Post
    when I looked up the lyrics to The Rains of Castamere and just reading a stark description of what happened
    heh, stark.

    yeah okay. the events that occurred were definitely a shock to me, but the characters involved were never really the most interesting storyline to me anyway.

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    I know it seems like the worst thing in the world - it's supposed to. But at this point in the story, only 2 POV characters have died - Cat and Ned. Yes, Robb is a major character on the show, but as many of you are correctly guessing, this is not a story about the young hero king who's had everything in life handed to him. This is a story about the cripple, the bastard, the dwarf, the tomboy, the smuggler, etc. A lot of people have been murdered in Westeros at this point, sometimes it happens to characters you've been following for a while because the storyteller has to let you know that he's playing for real.

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    If all he wanted was the North then why the hell would he march on Casterly Rock?
    For a million and one reasons. In the books, which are heavily grounded in medieval realism, the Lannister commanders are in constant fear that Robb will do just that, knowing full well he has no southron ambitions outside The Trident. Sacking Casterly Rock shows the realm that Joffrey is no true king and the Lannisters cannot even defend their own lands. It erodes supporters from them and wins a few allies by showing that they can win strategic victories, and big ones at that. A sack also increases morale, which Robb's troops were in dire need for at this point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miriel
    I know people are mocking the viewers who are calling it quits with this show. But honestly, how much schadenfreude can a person possibly have?
    This is actually a very legitimate concern that many book readers ask when you get to this point in the story, where literally nothing good is happening and you have to ask why you're reading this. I promise that as the story continues, the tone does lighten up a bit to where it was earlier in the story, and some very awesome things happen that you will want to see, and a few big revelations take place very soon about questions you may have had for a while if you've been paying close attention. I promise it's worth it.

    I'm about to watch it myself, but from what I've heard, the horror/suspense aspects of it have been lost on the showrunners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    Wars based on revenge never end well. I still think he should have holed away up North, declared himself king, and let the Lannisters try to remark otherwise in the freezing cold.
    Which would have been an excellent strategy if his objectives didn't include rescuing his sisters from King's Landing, even putting aside the revenge. All else being equal yeah, hiding in the North would be a good plan, but the fact Robb didn't want the Iron Throne for himself doesn't mean he had no objectives to the south and no reason to go there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    I'm about to watch it myself, but from what I've heard, the horror/suspense aspects of it have been lost on the showrunners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    Can someone just answer me yes or no: will the Stark's ever catch a break?
    Maybe Bran could use his new found powers to Usurp the Throne and take over Joffery and destroy the Lannisters from the inside out...Eventually? That ability of his can lead to all sorts of freaky occurrences and unpredictability.

    I am obviously talking super crazy crap but after last night...is there no insanity that will not happen?

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