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Thread: Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

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    Alright, I cleaned up the last few pages of this ridiculous thread. Non-readers have a hard enough time navigating this trout without dozens of generic spoiler tags that don't say whether they're for the book, the show, or just a gif set.

    We're not marking TV spoilers. If an episode has aired, it's out there. I don't watch the show when it airs, so I don't come in the thread on Sundays until after I watch the show. It's not hard, and I don't think that's been a problem for anyone here. Do not marked spoilers for aired episodes. If the episode hasn't aired, such as with something you glimpsed in a preview or an information leak, then mark it as a TV spoiler.

    Mark book spoilers as book spoilers. Let people know you're saying something from the books. People were good about this for awhile, but at least the last few pages are a mess of just the generic spoiler tag with no indication what's behind the tag. I've edited the last few pages to fix this, but future posts that don't comply will be either edited or deleted, depending on whether or not the non-compliance is becoming unreasonable.

    For speculation or comparisons between the TV show and the book, use your discretion. Most don't need spoiler tags, but some will. If you use a spoiler tag, state that you're speculating or comparing.

    I think these rules are pretty simple. Just please don't use a generic "spoiler" tag, as there's such a wide variety of types of spoilers and fans in this thread, and please don't bother to put tags on stuff that's already aired as it makes navigating discussion more cumbersome for everyone and doesn't have any benefit since we don't seem to have people dumb enough to read this thread before having watched an episode (at least not often enough to make it worth the cumbersommery).

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    I'm pretty sure Del was being sarcastic, but there are worse reasons to read the series than to avert the potential of being spoiled. This way you won't run across the spoilers about how Snape kills *insert character here*.
    I'm aware he was being a little facetious; I'm saying that he was also right. Gotta read that trout before someone blindsides you!

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    Can someone just answer me yes or no: will the Stark's ever catch a break?
    That depends very much on your definition of "a break." Though keep in mind the book series is far from over. Even book readers are still just in the middle of the story.

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    A break can be anything good that doesn't immediately lead into something bad.

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    Now that depends on how you define "bad."

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    Fair thee well, Talisa. You were annoying and a poor addition to the show, and were obviously there for the fan service.
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    I liked Talisa! So did BJ!

    He said after "It's like when the Angels are out of the season and all I care about is that the Yankee's lose." I asked what about the other four Starks and he said they should just stay away and live in peace. xD

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    Everyone liked Talisa, Sam just bizarro taste in TV show characters.

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    I like Oona Chaplain okay, and Talisa wasn't terrible. But there wasn't really an emotional connection to her.
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    Well, it's pretty obvious why book readers hated Talisa (no, Sam's not the only one), she added nothing to the plot and it says something about your show's productions when some foreign characters don't have foreign accents while others do. I'm also still a little disturbed at why the show runners want to use the material to tell their own stories. If they were great storytellers, they'd be producing their own show, not adapting George RR Martin's books. But like Ros, I came to deal with her and liked her for what she was, intrigued at how they were going to use her.

    It was incredibly sad (just watched it) and compounded the red wedding, but to set it off with stabbing a pregnant chick multiple times was overboard. Showing two women in succession just standing lifeless with blood spewing out of their throats was overboard. Horror, the literary genre of storytelling, which GRRM is a grandmaster of, is all about the suspense and build-up, and the eery paranoia, the sense that something is off, was completely missed by the showrunners with this scene. Of course they can't have the subtlety of a book, but to use that as an excuse to justify the complete lack of subtlety is insane (not talking about anyone in particular here). Between the gore and the sex, the last two seasons have had so many disappointments that I've been willing to write the show off almost every week completely, but inevitably there's always glimmers of greatness that keeps me coming back and I can't stand that!!!!

    Overall, yeah, they pulled it off. It was pretty terrifying. I do wish they kept the original line, "Jaime Lannister sends his regards,"non spoiler, just an image as it's still vehemently debated to this day whether or not Jaime was complicit in the Red Wedding. I really enjoyed all the other scenes and give them an A+ for Bran, Jon, and especially the awesomely choreographed Jorah, Daario, Grey Worm trio. That was bananas. I'm also perfectly fine if Daario continues to fight, if not dress, as flamboyantly as he does in the books.

    I was where TB was at last season, but Olenna's been great, Jon's been great, Tywin, Bran, Dany, Ygritte, Brienne, Barristan, Jorah, and a lot of others have been great. Plus they killed Talisa and Ros so I'm very optimistic for the fourth season!!!

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    Okay, just got to the part where Arya arrives at the Twins. (Or the area.)

    Osha's face when Rickon was talking about wildlings drinking blood was smurfing fantastic.

    Pike, if it's any consolation, I thought Jeyne Westerling (Robb's wife in the book) was a dumb, emotion-less character as well. (Stabbing a pregnant woman in the uterus is messed up no matter how attached you are, though.)
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    ok considering i haven't seen this brought up in this thread (granted i didn't watch until the start of season 3 so it may have been brought up in S2 discussion)

    i've always considered "ygritte" to be pronounced like "ih-greet" rather than "ee-gret" because when i hear ee-gret i think egret

    am i the only one

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    Yah I never pronounced it that way.

    GRRM was the one who wrote rhe episode in to say talisa Was preggo so I'm assuming he's okay with her changed character

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    I didn't say anything about that. I just said that it's messed up stabbing a pregnant woman in her uterus.

    Just finished the episode. Omg, Catelyn watching Robb die was so powerful. I love how they just slit her throat, and it cut to black, no music on the credits. Red Wedding book spoiler/different than show I see they didn't make it seem like Arya died in the show. I guess they figured it'd just be too much horror for non-book readers in one show.

    Next episode spoiler?/Book 3 spoiler OMG OMG OMG UNCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

    The rate they're going isn't really cutting the book into two. Are they just moving some plot points to season 4? As in, it's not necessarily chronological, but still covers the important bits? If they Book 3 make the season end with the revelation of UnCat, which would be smurfing awesome it would end the show at the exact place of the book ending.
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    Well they could always skip ahead in the story and then come back to show how events got to that point.

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    They could. Although it wouldn't particularly be something I'd like. That's just a personal preference, however.

    I think it's interesting to note that GRRM was going to set a book five years (?) in the future to age up his mains, but he realized he'd have to do so much backtracking to explain to the reader what has happened, that he decided it'd be too much work.
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