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Thread: Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

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    Just watched it. As a non-book reader, I cried. I'm not using hyperbole. I really, was saddened by the entire thing. I felt most sad for Catelyn though. I really connect with her as a character, and the fact that her son, and his son's wife (who she did bond with towards the end and respected her) died, well. She didn't have long to grieve, anywho.

    The entire episode had hints of foreboding however. The line Robb gives where "it is treason to strike a lord" when Talisa lovingly attempts to smack him was one hint. Another hint was the thunderstorms throughout as well, giving even more foreboding. What was worse was that I didn't notice these at first. The first half of the episode (essentially from the start till the end of the bedding ceremony) was joyful, and even humorous. It led you up into thinking that all was well, but then real concerns screamed at you. The closing of the doors. Catelyn's concerned face. Roose Bolton's chainmail and general demeanour, and the fact he wasn't drinking. As soon as I noticed the doors closing, I knew something was going down.

    And boy, am I bloody miserable. I never felt this sad in a GoT episode. Even Ned Stark's beheading was more interesting than saddening. I couldn't even watch most of the slaughtering. I sort of had it in the corner of my eye and listened instead. Catelyn's final plea was literally heartbreaking. I don't know how to react or how to think. It is probably the most surprising episode in quite awhile. Now, obviously, it being Episode Nine, I was expecting drama as GoT loves making the ninth episode it's climax with a denouement in the tenth. But even so. I was perhaps expecting a death or two, but not the entire Stark family unit. What made it worse was that guest right was invoked from the first minute. I mean, seriously. I'm pretty sure the Freys are not going to get off lightly for this. But it was really the Boltons who were the main betrayers and masterminds (together with the Lannisters, but then, you can't blame them for wanting to damage the enemy). The Freys are the public face of this event, but I doubt the Boltons will be revealed as a culprit. Unless I'm missing something, of course.

    I've still got my heart pounding and I know I am rambling but I don't care. I did like how the entire episode focused only on Starks. Jon, Bran (who has been woefully obscure this season: then again, all he's doing is travelling) and of course Robb/Cat. Oh, and Dany. I didn't like Dany's segment really in this episode and I find the Dany's lovefest with Daario slightly unsettling. She doesn't seem like someone who relies on someone and is quite independent, but she's so worried over him! Sheesh, he's been in your army for like 10 minutes. I'm beginning to lose interest in Dany once again because of this though. I found her presence in the episode distracting rather than complementary. I would have preferred it focus solely on the Starks. They all end on cliffhangers: Jon's escape, the Red Wedding, and to a degree the Bran storyline where he wargs for the first time and Osha leaves with Rickon. They all ended on cliffhangers with leave me wanting more. Mytha (isn't that what the next one's called?) is going to epic.

    I'm still going on aren't I? Nevermind. Oh! I missed out Arya! Of course. Make that four Stark storylines. The build-up scenes with the Hound was good and consolidated Arya's hate for him. Which then sort of makes it ironic because he ends up saving her life. He could have just let her run off into the Twins castle, but, he forcefully makes her leave. He didn't have to, but it does show his sense of duty and/or 'kindness', at least towards minors anyway. But again, cliffhanger.

    I should seriously stop now, but basically, that was epically sad. The silent credit sequence was perfect because I'm lost for words too.


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    Book 5 spoilerand on a final final note, I've got a quick question for any one who has finished the 5th book: at the end, when Dany is found in the grasslands by that other band, I can't remember if the khal in charge of that band was original riding with khal Drogo's band when he died. Can any one clarify? just a piece I've been curious about
    book 5Yup. Jhaqo.

    book 5 Was he one of Drogo's blood riders? That's what I'm most curious about, I can't remember that bit. Thanks for clarifying that much, though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC View Post
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    Book 5 spoilerand on a final final note, I've got a quick question for any one who has finished the 5th book: at the end, when Dany is found in the grasslands by that other band, I can't remember if the khal in charge of that band was original riding with khal Drogo's band when he died. Can any one clarify? just a piece I've been curious about
    book 5Yup. Jhaqo.

    book 5 Was he one of Drogo's blood riders? That's what I'm most curious about, I can't remember that bit. Thanks for clarifying that much, though.
    bookieThat 'yup' was meant to affirm that he was. XD Sorry if I was unclear.

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    I find the most interesting thing lately about the dany story is the Jorah stuff


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    I still think the Red Wedding would have been better if they'd kept the Greatjon there fighting everyone and anyone to in a vain attempt save Robb.

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    Although it probably would not have worked, I would have liked to see more time dedicated to the Red Wedding, similar to how the Battle of Blackwater took up the entire episode. I think it would have had enough meat in it to take up at least half of an episode, if not the entire thing. It seems like they went for sudden, in-your-face brutality rather than, at least what I saw, as underhanded scheming.

    Still good, still enjoyable. One of the better scenes of the series, but I think it could have been handled better and more true to the story.

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    Some insight as to why the Red Wedding is so heinous:

    We saw the Starks take bread and salt offered by Lord Frey--sharing food and drink with guests put them under Guest Right, a protection which is taken very seriously. In fact, Sam and Gilly are on their way to the Night Fort, which is the site of a famous incident that took place hundreds of years ago in relation to Guest Right. A king was visiting, and a cook murdered and fed the king his son. The cook then turned into a giant rat, cursed to eat its own young for all of eternity. It wasn't that the cook murdered the prince and fed him to his father that cursed him--it was breaking Guest Right.

    So Walder Frey cursed and dishonored his house irreparably when he killed off the Starks. You can chide Robb for entering the house of a guy who hates him, but he really should've been able to feel secure under Guest Right.

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    I think he is. I don't trust Ouch! either. Maybe if Frekana verified it.
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    What do you mean "again"? And for that matter, what do you mean "Obnoxious", the man specifically asked if the Starks have a happy ending. "Wait and see" is hardly hehehe wait for Episode 9 . I can understand your disagreement though. I kind of have my own ideas about where this is going to go, and if I'm right it'll be nice.

    Obvs MASSIVE book spoilers but mostly theory: (SPOILER)Cat will learn the truth of Jon Snow being not Ned's after all and feel very bad about how awful she was, and redeem herself by giving him the kiss and making sure he knows who his parents really were. And she'll see a couple of her kids again too I guess.

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    The "again" wasn't meant to refer to you specifically, just that is happens in this thread and is annoying.

    End of book 3 spoilerI feel like you're implying Cat's story isn't over, which is a big spoiler. I don't think many non-readers will pick up on it, but I still want to flick you. Del doesn't know what he wants; don't answer him!

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