Yeah I think Oberyn - and indeed Renly - are characters that died far too soon.
Yeah I think Oberyn - and indeed Renly - are characters that died far too soon.
True enough, but GRRM is noted for usually concealing a piece, is he not? Example: Littlefinger stealing away with Sansa. His absence went un-noted until he resurfaced to carry her off to The Vale.Originally Posted by Del Murder
If you put the pieces together the climax of this season will not be something any of us will enjoy. I hope to be proven wrong though!
To be fair, Oberyn is kind of lame in the books. I didn't care about him at all. In the show he's AWESOME.
Also, I second Del: the only reason I keep watching this show is because I enjoy talking about it with others. SO many people watch the show these days. It's gotten really bad, and basically everything Red Pill has said is spot on.
I stopped reading there.
Sweet. Can't wait for Shagga of the Stone Crows to come and save Tyrion from the headsman.True enough, but GRRM is noted for usually concealing a piece, is he not? Example: Littlefinger stealing away with Sansa. His absence went un-noted until he resurfaced to carry her off to The Vale.
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Wonderful contribution to the thread. I expect that I will be pondering your argument for days. Well thought out, articulately presented...are you at Harvard Law by chance? Because this is the absolute pinnacle of rational discourse.I stopped reading there.
Can we get a recap of prominent folks who have died in this season?
Also, forgot to mention - I am interested to see what plans the Boltons have for the North. Speculation: I have a feeling Ramsay will end up murdering his father for some personal benefit because I can't see him being capable of any love or honor toward anyone other than himself. Now that Roose has given him a document sealing his name change to the Bolton house and essentially naming him heir and handing the North to Ramsay, there is really no reason for Roose to remain alive.
I don't know about that, Ramsay has shown definite deference to his father. He seemed legit touched to be made a Bolton. I think he's just insane rather than coniving.
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Off the top of my head, you have
- King Joffrey Baratheon
- Ser Dontos Hollard (the guy who helped Sansa out)
- The many great masters of Mereen
- The mutineers at Craster's Keep
- Lysa Arryn
- Prince Oberyn Martell
In terms of very major deaths, you're basically looking at Joffrey, Lysa and Oberyn.
Joffrey and Oberyn are the big ones. The Mountain too, though he's less important and I couldn't actually tell if he was dead or merely exhausted at the end of the fight. Mountain spoilersYes I know he's poisoned and probably becomes Robert Strong and all but w/e. I actually can't think of anyone else major though. e; oh hurr right Lysa Arryn.
Keith if your only contribution is "this is a bad show" because you dislike some of the storylines or characters the only argument anyone can offer in return is "no it's a good show". Like yeah the show doesn't hit the mark every time, I'm not all that jazzed about the Sam and Gilly stuff for example, and it's got such a huge scope that inevitably some storylines have to take backseat at times (like uh aren't we meant to be seeing Stannis at the wall a few weeks ago?). But if you just plain dislike large segments of it, what value is there in trying to convince you otherwise? You thought the beetle speech was banal and trying too hard: I thought it was excellent and powerful and held a huge amount of symbolic importance for the show. There's no way to resolve that difference, I'm unlikely to convince you it's great and you're unlikely to convince me it's bad.
So the only thing to do is scorn each other for bad taste.
I like watching the characters and how they interact. In that sense I watch this show for the same reason I watched (SPOILER)My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
I partially agree with Red Pill's critique. Season 1 and 2 were pretty good. This season feels like filler. Every time I see Hound & Arya, or Dany they're doing the same boring trout. The only thing of interest to me this entire season has been what's going on with the Lannisters and Littlefinger's weird trout. It sucks because while this season is full of filler, it has some of the best moments in the last minutes of the show. I would say all in all after this season is done, it will have the most "omg" moments of any season thus far.
The ending reminded me of the time I dropped a water melon in the fruit aisle, chunks everywhere. Sansa's transformation into Edea was a shock at the end that could get very interesting if she's found her dark side (like Arya). I'm now wondering whether Arya and Hound make progress through the gate. A very grim episode for the good guys last night.
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I'd say Lysa Arryn is pretty important - her death has markedly impacted both Sansa's and Littlefinger's storylines. Just because it's way up in the Eyrie (which is still conspicuously absent from the title sequence) doesn't mean it's not important.
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