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Thread: Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

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    Overall, I give this episode an A for the actions scenes, an F for the logic.

    A few thoughts, though my biggest one revolves around the growing momentum that Bran and The Night King might be one and the same: Is there any chance that The Night King wanted all of this to go down so he could gain access to a dragon? Was all the time spent waiting behind the Wall just a feint to get them to come to him? It sure seems like he was ready with those spears and those chains for the right opportunity. Maybe he wanted Gendry to get away, warn Dany and bring the dragons to him. If so, how could he have known that would happen and that they'd come? Maybe if he was somehow ACTUALLY a mystical being of infinite time and space? That would at least make somewhat more sense then the Night King just being a crack shot.

    I admit, I am STUNNED that only one of the Snow Team 7 character ended up dying and of all things, he FROZE to death! That might be the biggest twist in the episode.

    The Benjen appearance felt very, very wrong. After Jon literally has been searching and wondering about him for 7 seasons, he just appears, says "Run!" and then is presumably "killed?" (Can he even be killed?). I'm assuming they didn't have time and/or wanted to just leave the details for the books..... haha, if they ever come out.

    The logistics have already been mentioned, but it does seem really odd that Sansa and Winterfell are an afterthought in all this. Jon found out that Arya and Bran are alive and he doesn't even send them a note?

    Finally, if Arya can't see through a note that Robb and company dismissed way back in Season 1, I think she needs to go back into training. That whole plotline feels like they are just looking for ways to mark time until the Stark girls kill Littlefinger.

    If the show is trying to just clear the board for the big ending, I'd have hoped it could be done a bit more elegantly but it is what it is. TV isn't always meant for long-form fantasy storytelling, especially when budgets and contracts come into play. Still, if they manage to surprise and thrill us, I think it will ultimately be a job well done. It very well have lost some luster from its earlier heights but the show is still brilliantly and technically made.

    Take care all.

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    Something I've been wondering:

    It's the trend we're seeing in every bit of IP pop culture, so why wouldn't GoT do it too? Could they end up splitting the final 6 episodes (which are rumored to all be long, almost film length) over two years? 3 in 2018 and 3 in 2019 just to drag out the suspense and the hype even more?

    Or even worse, if each episode is longer, could they split episodes in half and air them over the course of several weeks?

    I feel like anything is possible at this point, given the record numbers HBO is drawing though I really don't want to see either of these things happen.

    Take care all.

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    Yeah absolutely the effects and action are fantastic and I can't fault it. It's just the writing has gone quite downhill and it may be because they have limited time to finish what they need to do. I will still watch the show. I will still.... mostly enjoy it, but now it's a case of enjoying it for what it is as opposed to enjoying it for all the things that were on the table in the earlier seasons.

    It's totally a great show, but I can't hide my disappointment in the last few episodes - but then, I've always enjoyed the 'talking' more than the action. One of my favourite scenes in the whole show is still Tywin's first appearance when he's skinning and gutting that stag... Visual perfection matched with stellar performance and writing!


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    I just didn't enjoy it. I don't think I've truly enjoyed Got since around mid season 5. A few things bugged me about this episode -

    Why the hell are they using dragonglass as daggers and not as arrowheads? They could have killed the white walkers right there and then!

    Wtf was with the Uncle Benji scene? Them bringing him back just to kill him off immediately was clearly a case of "oh yeah, Benji, any ideas with him? No? Get rid." and why the hell was there "no time" for him to jump on the horse and ride off with Jon.

    Why, when the dragons came about, didn't Jon just shout to Dany, "there, hit there!" while pointing to the white walkers who were just standing about 50 feet away?

    Also the travelling, oh god the travelling. Gendry gets to the wall, a raven gets send to dragonstone and then Dany flys in on the dragons in exactly the right location and in just the nick of time (another thing that's bugging me - last minute saves) within what, a night? Two?

    As always the action scenes were well shot and looked great, but everything this show was built on is not there anymore. I'm really surprised there aren't more complaints about it since its nothing like the earlier seasons and that's what got people into the show.
    Of course I'll watch it until the end, there's only 8 episodes left after all, but if this had been the show from the beginning I probably never would have gotten into it.

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    Yeah I was wondering where they got those chains. Maybe that's why it's taking them so long to get to the Wall. Lugging a bunch of huge chains around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    Yeah I was wondering where they got those chains. Maybe that's why it's taking them so long to get to the Wall. Lugging a bunch of huge chains around.
    perhaps, but why would they have the chains in the 1st place? did they expect/forsee all of this? :o

    i know there are alot of these holes but: how convenient that 1 of those wights survived while all the others just fell apart

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    The only thing that makes sense (though it is more probable that there is no concentrated effort by the writers to actually make it make sense) is that the Night King has some kind of precognition like Bran does and foresaw this whole event happening. Which is why his walkers just circled them and waited and why they had those ice spears ready, because he knew the dragons would come.

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    I haven't bought the "Oh, Arya is dead, it's a Faceless Man wearing her face!" at all, but this episode smurfing. It's the only thing they could do to make that scene even remotely forgivable.
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    Jinx you are absolutely smurfing insane. Never change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
    I haven't bought the "Oh, Arya is dead, it's a Faceless Man wearing her face!" at all
    I think the fandom is at the point where it makes up theories just for the sake of making up theories, and then the Buzzfeeds of the world run with it because it gets clicks. Never mind that it's clearly utter horsetrout.

    Bran's totally the Night King by the way!!!!!

    ok is he though

    is he really

    Then again if the theory becomes popular enough they'll just do it. Clegane Bowl is happening next season for the sole reason that people want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
    I haven't bought the "Oh, Arya is dead, it's a Faceless Man wearing her face!" at all
    I think the fandom is at the point where it makes up theories just for the sake of making up theories, and then the Buzzfeeds of the world run with it because it gets clicks. Never mind that it's clearly utter horsetrout.

    Bran's totally the Night King by the way!!!!!

    ok is he though

    is he really

    Then again if the theory becomes popular enough they'll just do it. Clegane Bowl is happening next season for the sole reason that people want it.
    Pretty sure it's happening Sunday. But yeah.

    Honestly, I think (and always have thought) Cleganebowl is dumb, and I don't get the hype.
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    Jinx you are absolutely smurfing insane. Never change.

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    I think the hype about it is merely that it's fun to hype. Not that it's really gonna be super cool or anything but it's become it's own meme.

    Kinda like the newer "Right Proper" is now a meme thanks to the tl;dw recaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotic View Post
    Hey Faceless Men, I've decided I'm a Stark of Winterfell because I love my family.

    Hey fellow Stark of Winterfell, I'm a Faceless Man and I'm going to kill you now.
    I'm holding out hope that Arya is playing a long con and she's not actually this stupid. I truly believed when she met Nymeria that it would cause her to turn around and head back to King's Landing because undermining the Lannisters from the shadows would be the best way she could help her family. The only plotline she had waiting for her in Winterfell was some stupid conflict with Sansa/Littlefinger and I thought it would be beneath this show to get into that soap opera BS. Whelp, looks like I'm now on Team Sansa, the only intelligent Stark.

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