Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

[Freya]

Honestly, there's so much I'd like to see that's different. Like yeah, Stannis is still very much alive in the books. We don't know if he even has an end or not in the story. So I'm a bit excited to see what they do with everyone.

The show is its own thing, I mean it has been from the beginning. So I kinda hate being like "but in the books!" cause they only ever have been more loose in their comparisons. Like the whole Catelyn arc. Hell just the general lack of Wolves and warging the show has. They're really their own thing so I don't like being like "but this one point in the books said XYZ" cause they said xyz a lot and we are way past xyz

[Jinx]

REREAD MY LAST PARAGRAPH YOU GRAPE

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Happy Star Wars weekend my dudes.

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[Bubba]

I’d just like to ask the father of the two farm boys whether he feels Theon deserves redemption... and yes, I am going to pull the father card here... if anyone burned and killed your child/children then you might feel a tad different.

I appreciate the lengths Theon has gone to do good since ‘sausagegate’ but he deserved to die and I’m glad he’s dead.

Edit: Also, why was Theon protecting Bran/TER from all those wights when the NK needed him for non-fighty/touchy-feely time??

[Jinx]

Considering those two farm boys were orphans, probably their father didn’t have much of an opinion of if they died or not.

Re: the father card
If your son was stolen from you at the age of 5, you might be more understanding towards him turning into kind of a trouthead.

[Psychotic]

I’d just like to ask the father of the two farm boys whether he feels Theon deserves redemption...

I appreciate we're talking about the show here, but interestingly in the book the father of those two boys is... Theon. (or at least strongly implied if not outright stated) Which of course makes it all the more monstrous.

[Bubba]

Re: the father card
If your son was stolen from you at the age of 5, you might be more understanding towards him turning into kind of a trouthead.

Understanding, yes. Forgiving? No.

[Slothy]

I’d just like to ask the father of the two farm boys whether he feels Theon deserves redemption... and yes, I am going to pull the father card here... if anyone burned and killed your child/children then you might feel a tad different.

There's a difference between justice and vengeance. Parents usually want the latter and not the former. Therefore I don't actually care about the parents thoughts on what sort of punishment is justified.

The torture he went through alone was worse than death would have been and he still had to live with the extreme trauma for years after. And since I firmly believe the goal of any system of justice should be to rehabilitate, I'm totally fine with a largely rehabilitated Theon at the end not being further punished for a crime he's largely suffered enough for already.

And no argument from emotions will ever change my mind on this for the record. Someone who actively works toward redeeming themselves and is plainly a changed human being in every way that really matters is always deserving of a second chance and forgiveness in my eyes.

And while I don't and never will have children, if I did I wouldn't want to be the person deciding how their killer is punished. I know I wouldn't be capable of executing justice and I refuse to become a murderer solely because someone I loved was murdered. Rationally I'd rather see someone redeemed and I'd rather other people continue to pursue that goal when I have experienced things that may render me incapable or unlikely of doing it myself.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Speaking of popular artists making music for the show, I remember a few years ago now when iTunes had something like "Catch the Thrones: The Mixtape" and had things like Snoop Dogg rapping about the Lannisters. The first few seconds of each song tend to be dialogue from the show.

A few of my personal favorites from that one:

Mastodon - White Walkers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK4WYmTOjdI

Self explanatory. Also cool to listen to this season.

Killswitch Engage - Loyalty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNz0V6cwSlE

A song for the unbowed, unbent, unbroken. Kicks total ass and is worth listening to 24 hours a day 365 days of the year.

[Jinx]

Major plot points from tonight's episode were leaked. Whew lads.

[Freya]

Video out for one of the songs

[Jinx]

Let us all mourn for the saddest death of the series: the possibility of a Jaime and Brienne relationship.

[Freya]

The rhaegal loss got me more than Messandei. It was such a surprise. I legit squealed in horror. Honestly, meh to messandei's death. I was never too attached to her.

Also, they should all listen to Sansa more.


Also wtf, Ghost had legit wounds, messing an ear even, and they just like "he's going to live with uncle Torumnd"

[Jinx]

Tormund will treat him better than Jon ever has. > Also, I get the feeling this will be the last we see of Tormund, if not a small scene in the epilogue, which makes sense narratively. It's fine, he's gonna go back to doign whatever the smurf it is Tormund does and have adventures with his kick ass new dog.

How are you feeling with the death of Gendrya? Shippers on suicide watch tonight.

[Vermachtnis]

There's a sad dog all over Twitter.