Oh, absolutely. The acting from both Maisie and Joe were great in that scene, it just wasn't my thing, I guess.
Oh, absolutely. The acting from both Maisie and Joe were great in that scene, it just wasn't my thing, I guess.
Originally Posted by Fynn
Yeah Cat's move was a bad one politically and strategically, but it was a perfectly sane and understandable one as a mother. Her eldest son bore the burden of war and she's well aware that any battle could be his last. Theon has betrayed them all and, as far as she knows, killed Bran and Rickon. Jon she could never love anyway, but he's gone to the wall now, so even if she did want to she could see him only rarely. Sansa and Arya are the only two children who, if they were with her, might be close to safe - after everything she's lost and endured it's little wonder she's willing to try to buy them back with Jaime.
I didn't say I didn't understand why she did it.
I didn't say you didn't understand!
It's because you are a cold, heartless monster.
I've never denied this, Bunny, dear.It's because you are a cold, heartless monster.
If I were Cat, I would've done the same thing. Husband dead, little sons dead, daughters captive, and the one hostage that can save them clearly about to be killed... I would've absolutely have made the same decision. The reason Robb can't go take back the North from the Greyjoys is because his sisters are still captive; get them back and the causes of the war become far less urgent. Revenge and independence are much easier to strive for long-term then the lives of your family, so I don't think it was a terrible political move either.
It was months later, maybe a full year. Jaime was Robb's prisoner for a year.When Cat released Jaime, it was just after Ed was beheaded, so that threat of violence towards Sansa was very much real.
My confusion over your original inquiries have nothing to do with having read the books.
I know Lysa made it clear to Cat she wanted the Vale to stay neutral, but yeah it doesn't really add up that Robb wouldn't think to ask his aunt for help. Not like he's taking his mom's advice on anything else!
e; then again the fact that it is at all plausible to the King's Landing cabal to send Littlefinger to try and get Lysa Arryn on their side suggests there's some seriously bad blood there we don't know all the details of yet.
(SPOILER)At this point in the books they've been sending raven after raven to the Vale for months with no response at all from Lysa. Many of her higher lords are also pleading for war due to their own ties to the Starks; Ned was raised there and a few of the higher houses can trace their blood to the Starks.
No one knows exactly what's going on.
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Well I mean at this point, go to your crazy aunt or go to the guy you kinda threw the middle finger to by marrying someone else when you promised to marry one of his daughters. Options...?
I just don't get what Cat expected to happen. They hand over Jaime, and the Lannisters suddenly say "Oh, nice one. Here, have Sansa back."? I don't think the Lannisters are so gracious. If I were at war, I wouldn't expect my enemy, regardless of who they were, to be so gracious.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
Problem: to get to the Vale, he has to cross Frey's lands/The Twins again.
Yeah she would have had better luck trying to convince Robb to trade for them officially.
Brienne: I present to you Sir Jaime Lannister in return for the Stark daughters.
Cersei: Thank you for returning my brother....Guards!
*guards skewer Brienne*
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Best episode yet, by a mile. Fantastic stuff all round.
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oh yah i forgot that.Problem: to get to the Vale, he has to cross Frey's lands/The Twins again.
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