Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

[Freya]

The episode Hodor became a verb

[Necronopticous]

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[Denmark]

this is just a large-ish image and a tv spoiler, spoilering for courtesy

[Roogle]

This post contains spoilers for A Storm of Swords. EDIT by Shlup: In regards to a moderately important difference between the Red Wedding in the book and in the show; there are no future spoilers.

(SPOILER)As far as I remeber in the books it says Catelyn was not supposed to be killed but ended up dead as she killed a Frey (someone can correct me if I'm wrong). So right until her dying breath she smurfed up.

(SPOILER)Yes, I believe they intended to keep her as a hostage as they did with Edmure, but Catelyn executed Jinglebell and then began clawing at her face, laughing hysterically, until someone in the room says, "She's lost her wits," and another, "Make an end," and then she is killed.

I'm really not sure attempting to save your remaining son's life after you've also had a crossbow quarrel through the shoulder as well is smurfing up.

(SPOILER)Yes, the television show handled this better as she was able to take Lady Frey hostage. That makes much more sense to stay a massacre if a lord's wife is taken hostage rather than a lackwit grandson. In A Storm of Swords, Jinglebell was the only one that Catelyn was able to access that was helpless. It really made the situation seem that much more desperate, that she would execute such a helpless individual. The hostage in the TV show makes it seem more calculated and intelligent to me.

[The Man]

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[Aulayna]

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[Loony BoB]

I'm interested to see if the guy who got up to go piss on a tree is still alive as I imagine he'll be the new leader, and also interested to see how the Stark army respond. I can see it being rather obvious how Arya responds, at the very least.

[Aulayna]

Horror, the literary genre of storytelling, which GRRM is a grandmaster of, is all about the suspense and build-up, and the eery paranoia, the sense that something is off, was completely missed by the showrunners with this scene. Of course they can't have the subtlety of a book, but to use that as an excuse to justify the complete lack of subtlety is insane (not talking about anyone in particular here).

I guess as someone who read the books you are at a disadvantage here. As someone who hadn't read the books the build up was perfect and exactly as you described it wasn't. From Catelyn telling Robb earlier on to show them how it feels, to the moment she realises something is amiss when the bedding ceremony begins. Her general unease throughout all of it coupled with Walder's shiftyness perfectly set the stage and built the tension and that something was off. Catelyn pretty much carried that entire scene.

[Shlup]

Well, it's pretty obvious why book readers hated Talisa (no, Sam's not the only one), she added nothing to the plot and it says something about your show's productions when some foreign characters don't have foreign accents while others do. I'm also still a little disturbed at why the show runners want to use the material to tell their own stories. If they were great storytellers, they'd be producing their own show, not adapting George RR Martin's books. But like Ros, I came to deal with her and liked her for what she was, intrigued at how they were going to use her.

I think it's funny that the primary impact of the two characters created for the show was their deaths.

I didn't say anything about that. I just said that it's messed up stabbing a pregnant woman in her uterus.

As a pregnant woman, I appreciated that they wanted to throw in something new to really shock the book readers. We thought we were prepared... we were not.

If they Book 3 make the season end with the revelation of UnCat, which would be smurfing awesome it would end the show at the exact place of the book ending.

I don't know at what point they'll do that, but I would be really surprised if they did that in the next episode.

[Pheesh]

All I know is that if I don't finally see Ser Barristan swing a smurfing sword soon I'm going to LOSE MY GODDAMN MIND!

[Jinx]

I didn't say anything about that. I just said that it's messed up stabbing a pregnant woman in her uterus.

As a pregnant woman, I appreciated that they wanted to throw in something new to really shock the book readers. We thought we were prepared... we were not.

If they Book 3 make the season end with the revelation of UnCat, which would be smurfing awesome it would end the show at the exact place of the book ending.

I don't know at what point they'll do that, but I would be really surprised if they did that in the next episode.

I was actually very curious how you felt about Talisa being stabbed in the uterus, but I know some pregnant women get really sensitive and stuff, so I didn't want to ask you and potentially upset you.

Also, future/book spoiler As much as I want UnCat next episode, it'd be an amazing surprised halfway through next season, or something.

[Shlup]

I don't blame you; I am irritable as smurf.

[Jinx]

By the way, all you non-book readers better be voting for Shlup as Best Admin in the Ciddies. She's the one who cleans up this thread for you.

[Pike]

Every Final Fantasy forum, ever - Spoilered due to size

Beatcha to it! :}

By the way, all you non-book readers better be voting for Shlup as Best Admin in the Ciddies. She's the one who cleans up this thread for you.

Yes but BoB is the one who griped about it enough in the staff forum that one of us finally had to go do it

[Madame Adequate]

Well, it's pretty obvious why book readers hated Talisa (no, Sam's not the only one), she added nothing to the plot and it says something about your show's productions when some foreign characters don't have foreign accents while others do. I'm also still a little disturbed at why the show runners want to use the material to tell their own stories. If they were great storytellers, they'd be producing their own show, not adapting George RR Martin's books. But like Ros, I came to deal with her and liked her for what she was, intrigued at how they were going to use her.

George R.R. Martin was the one who changed Jeyne Westerling into Talisa Maegyr, hth.

Horror, the literary genre of storytelling, which GRRM is a grandmaster of, is all about the suspense and build-up, and the eery paranoia, the sense that something is off, was completely missed by the showrunners with this scene.

Even knowing what was coming the last 10 minutes of that episode were some of the most suspensful, tense, and nail-biting television I've ever seen. I've rarely seen the sense that something is wrong escalated so expertly and I'm not even sure we were watching the same show.