Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

[Night Fury]

During this latest episode I (SPOILER)clutched my womb in pain. Poor Talisa man. Poor Talisa.

[blackmage_nuke]

I like Arya because she has the best adventures.

Also it's like people from Braavos are drawn to her.

[Miriel]

I knew people were going to take what I said the wrong way I fully blame myself. I need to learn how to WRITE GOODER.

I seriously wasn't trying to refer to you in my post. I saw your edit and understood what it was that you meant. It's just a common thing that exists in society, and exists in GoT as well. I've already ranted about it before though in this thread. I was talking more in the sense that Arya herself sees herself as not being into stupid girly things like other girls. I wish more than she would embrace the fact that she is a girl, she likes what she likes, does what she does, and that doesn't make her any less of a female.

In terms of gender issues, nobody, and I mean nobody, hates women more than Cersei does, and I don't think the show does a good job of showing that. Though I guess most of it comes across when she minor spoilerbecomes a POV character in AFFC, so

I don't know how it is in the books, but it's pretty clear on the show that Cersei does not really care for other women, but more than that, it seems like she just doesn't like PEOPLE in general. She has a lot of hate in her.

[Pike]

I knew people were going to take what I said the wrong way I fully blame myself. I need to learn how to WRITE GOODER.

I seriously wasn't trying to refer to you in my post. I saw your edit and understood what it was that you meant. It's just a common thing that exists in society, and exists in GoT as well. I've already ranted about it before though in this thread. I was talking more in the sense that Arya herself sees herself as not being into stupid girly things like other girls. I wish more than she would embrace the fact that she is a girl, she likes what she likes, does what she does, and that doesn't make her any less of a female.

Okay, I apologize for any assumptions I made. I'm just used to having to walk on eggshells when I talk about this kind of thing; I feel like it's easy to accidentally give the wrong impression.

[Madame Adequate]

I don't know how it is in the books, but it's pretty clear on the show that Cersei does not really care for other women, but more than that, it seems like she just doesn't like PEOPLE in general. She has a lot of hate in her.

Yeah I agree totally, maybe it's more emphasized as only disliking women in the books, but in the show she's certainly no fan of them. People who like women don't sit in a roomful of them talking about the rapes they're likely to soon endure.

It's interesting to compare her to other characters who don't like the role they've been assigned by their gender - Arya and Brienne, especially. Brienne's got the muscle and skill to break anyone who gives her trout, and Arya's just a little badass all around, but Cersei's tried to play the Game how it's meant to be played, in court and everything, but has never really been able to break free of her father's influence. She thinks that's because she's a woman although I'm more inclined to believe Tywin's claim that it's just because she's not as clever as she thinks she is - and it's not like he treats Tyrion, or indeed anyone, else nicely, except a bit of softness towards Arya and maybe thinking Kevan's somewhat competent.

[Miriel]

This is why I'm so hopeful for the character of Margaery. She is pretty much the only female in the entire show to seek out and encourage female camaraderie and not in a master/servent sort of way like it is with Dany. And to be honest, she seems like she would be the most competent ruler. Kind but cunning. And of course I love her Grandma.

I wonder if she will end up dead too.

[Cuchulainn]

I love Arya because out of every single person we have ever seen interact with Tywin Lannister she is the only one who has unsettled him.

A 9 year old girl was able to make Tywin Lannister feel some discomfort. (She was also just about the only competent person he's ever met and I bet to hell he wishes he could have adopted that cupbearer.)

This is the reason that should be first on everybody's list. She knocked Tywin sodding Lannister off his step. That is literally as badass as it is possible to be in this book.

And then we talk about how it's awesome how she is one of the few characters who isn't full of trout, and consistently refuses to exist as anything other than herself.

If you've read the books it's not a great reason..as none of that happened.

In the books I understand that Cersei HATES the male-dominated world and hates all women who conform to it. She also hates anyone who challenges her family so she pretty much hates everyone but her kids & Jaime

[Shaibana]

This is why I'm so hopeful for the character of Margaery. She is pretty much the only female in the entire show to seek out and encourage female camaraderie and not in a master/servent sort of way like it is with Dany. And to be honest, she seems like she would be the most competent ruler. Kind but cunning. And of course I love her Grandma.

I wonder if she will end up dead too.

Knowing the reputation of Game Of Thrones it would suprise me :l

[Ouch!]

This is why I'm so hopeful for the character of Margaery. She is pretty much the only female in the entire show to seek out and encourage female camaraderie and not in a master/servent sort of way like it is with Dany. And to be honest, she seems like she would be the most competent ruler. Kind but cunning. And of course I love her Grandma.

I wonder if she will end up dead too.

Margaery gets a much larger and more active role in the TV series than she does in the books. It's one of the things that the television show arguably does better, especially because her expanded presence doesn't actually deviate from her role in the books.

[Shlup]

Since I've added spoiler tags to a couple of posts lately, I'd like to remind people that posting about a character's future at all is a spoiler. Posting a character death is obviously a spoiler, but so is posting that they live.

I love Arya because out of every single person we have ever seen interact with Tywin Lannister she is the only one who has unsettled him.

A 9 year old girl was able to make Tywin Lannister feel some discomfort. (She was also just about the only competent person he's ever met and I bet to hell he wishes he could have adopted that cupbearer.)

This is the reason that should be first on everybody's list. She knocked Tywin sodding Lannister off his step. That is literally as badass as it is possible to be in this book.

Yep this is my #1 reason as well.

It was a great addition to the show, but none of that happened in the books. Though there are other reasons I like Arya in the books, including that, by this point in the book-story, she's killed a couple more people and been a pretty solid badass about it.

[Psychotic]

Margaery gets a much larger and more active role in the TV series than she does in the books. It's one of the things that the television show arguably does better, especially because her expanded presence doesn't actually deviate from her role in the books.

I think Margaery would make and/or have made (happy, Shlup? Neutral tenses! ) a great POV character, as we only ever really see her through the eyes of others and usually she's off having fun somewhere.

[Ouch!]

Margaery gets a much larger and more active role in the TV series than she does in the books. It's one of the things that the television show arguably does better, especially because her expanded presence doesn't actually deviate from her role in the books.

I think Margaery would make and/or have made (happy, Shlup? Neutral tenses! ) a great POV character, as we only ever really see her through the eyes of others and usually she's off having fun somewhere.

I'm in the camp that the Tyrells have some stuff going on and there's a reason that the books haven't used any of them as POV characters as watching them scheme would reveal a twist and ruin a potential surprise. AFFC SpoilerFor example, I am not convinced that Loras Tyrell was actually harmed in battle as Cersei was told. I expect that, like the Queen of Thorn's involvement in Joffrey's death, the Tyrells are going to make a run at completely taking over King's Landing (not that they're not already on the way to doing so).

[Madame Adequate]

[Jinx]

[Madame Adequate]

That was the EXACT GIF I hoped for.