It was more dramatic in the books from what I read. A Feast of Crows SpoilerShe was so weak in the end she had to crawl to the Red Keep.
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm rooting for Cersei to get her revenge on the nun and the Sand Snakes once she hears her daughter is dead.
Yeah, I said it. I'm Team Cersei Lannister! Go Juggernaut Knight! That's what I'm calling the big guy. That way when he kills people I can go, "I'M THA JUGGERNAUT BITCH!"
Juggerknight!
I don't tend to care much about there being nudity in GoT but that one was indeed reeeeeaaaaaally drawn out.
Jon & Stannis to still be walking next series, I expect. Hope the Red Witch dies at the hands of Davos after resurrecting Jon. But something tells me the whole "We will meet again" thing with Arya will mean both those girls will be around for some time yet.
Whatever happens to Arya will likely just turn her into a bigger badass and I'm sure we all know it.
Really happy Theon & Sansa are on the run. No idea how far they'd realistically get though, when you think about it they have a huge cavalry literally at the ready which they can use to chase them down and they're about to get found out pretty quick I'd imagine.
So happy Varys is back with Tyrion and really hope that Dany likes him too. Dany is getting the best crew ever but then she's afk now, so uh... no clue what's going to happen there, but that Dothraki army looked pretty badass.
What else... uhm... Olly was always gonna do that, but like many I'm annoyed about Alliser because he was a good anti-villain.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
I happen to have experience with blind assassins. Unfortunately for Arya, claymore mines haven't been invented yet.
Maybe Sansa and Theon will have a fighting chance if they meet up with Brienne who kept Stannis alive to help like somebody else in this thread said. Though even then there chances don't seem that good. Unless a certain Lord of The Vale appears with his army to take Winterfell and penetrate the Boltons' plot armor.
Regardless of what they do, I'm sure it will take half the season to accomplish.
SHAME.Originally Posted by Bubba
DING DING DING
My only guess with Brienne is that she can use Stannis as a bargaining chip. I mean, having the would-be King held hostage is pretty good thing to have.
I'm not done with GoT, and I probably never will be. It's sucked me in too much now. But Season Five has sucker punched me, to be honest. Previous seasons had one, maybe two really gut-wrenching episodes, like the Red Wedding. This season has main characters dropping off like flies. I know we didn't really see her much, but I actually got pretty attached to Myrcella.
pretty sure I read somewhere that stannis is confirmed dead. Which kind of means his story went nowhere, but....
The confirmation was probably just a fake out.
Like Jon surely is.
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Watched it this evening.
An unimpressive finale for an unimpressive season.
They really shouldn't have hyped this season up so much. I mean, I enjoyed it, but I think Season Four was a lot better overall.
There is no possible rhyme or reason for her to keep Stannis alive. She's been on a years-long revenge bender by now and Stannis killed the only man she (probably) ever loved.
Stannis is worth more dead to her than alive. He has no claim to anything except Dragonstone, which is basically in ruin. His daughter is dead, his wife is dead. His command is in shambles, he has no army. He isn't like a Lannister who's worth something wherever they go because of their family name. Stannis is nothing now.
Brienne and Pod watched the Boltons surround them and crept in after the battle was over to specifically find Stannis and make sure he was dead. There isn't a chance he's alive, not with Brienne coming after you.
Put like that, I guess not. Well replied Shorty!
To be honest I like Brienne more when she wasn't on some massive Renly-crush. I tend to forget about that side of her when she is being all knightly.
I think people are skeptical because they didn't see the deathblow, but I'm okay with dead Stannis for obvious reasons.
I remain convinced that Jon Snow is dead..... but Jon Stark or maybe Jon [Redacted] will be very much alive at some point. In the most literal sense of things, only death could end his vows to the Night's Watch. Well, how's that for timing? Maybe he doesn't return until Season 7 which would make what Kit said technically true as well: "Not back next season."
My prediction is that Winds of Winter will be released at some point in early 2016, maybe even by Christmas 2015 and we'll start to get some answers to the mysteries but at the same time, since the show has already gone down new roads with various characters, I wonder of Mr. Martin will decide to troll us and change things considerably again?
The endgame of the series remains quite murky but I still think it will ultimately prove that really, the idea of fighting for a throne is futile. Maybe the White Walkers usher in democracy! Somehow, I can't believe their only agenda is just DEATH, COLD, WINTER, ZOMBIES.
Take care all.
Stannis' probably death and just utter annihilation was the point I decided that death and things not working out just happen too much in this story. I can understand trying to take a realistic portrayal of these situations, but there still has to be something to keep people wanting to invest in characters. At this point, it just becomes a detriment to the story to have it be a continuous thing. I can't say anything for the books as I've only read the first one all the way through, but it hinders the show quite a bit. Maybe Stannis isn't dead considering the actual death moment would be off screen, but that's not really my point here.
The point I want to make is that this moment could have been such a poignant moment for the story if these things were more rare. You have this man who has been mostly up to this point seen as a good leader if nothing else. You have this lady feeding him tales of magic that he is able to witness first hand, and it really doesn't hold much cost for him to achieve the feats he does. His strength though (and great weakness) is that he is driven to just keep moving forward until he achieves his goal. He gets to the point where his men are fleeing and supplies are being destroyed, and he is getting desperate. In his desperation, he sees no option but to finally pay a terrible cost for the magic of the Lord of Light through the death of his daughter because he has essentially lost any option but to be defeated or turn back at that point. He knows what he is doing is wrong, so he sends the one man who can speak reason and would try to stop him away. He has to try to talk to Shireen in cryptic ways to try to justify his choice by having her tell him she'd do anything to help him achieve his goals. In the end, he gives into the one chance he has to continue moving forward, resulting in the death of the one person who helped him have humanity and gave him reasons to live outside of his drive to get the throne. By killing Shireen, he kills his own humanity and conscience to move forward and take the throne. But, in the end, relying on forces he doesn't understand backfires and he is abandoned by his men, abandoned by his wife who kills herself, and you can see pain in his eyes at this point. I could see the moment when he is told Melisandre has fled the defeat in his eyes. He has nothing to live for except to move forward and try to get the throne despite the futility since he has destroyed the only thing worth turning everything around for. In the end he was slaughtered, and his actions and story all become meaningless because of the choices he made.
Now, I think there is something beautiful and meaningful in that story. There are other terrible things that have happened on the show and in the books I'm sure that hold similar meaning, but nothing struck me quite as much as how interesting I found the Stannis' storyline when separated from all of the other events of the show. The issue is it's become overshadowed by all of the similar things that happen constantly in the show that all of that meaning pretty much becomes lost. It's too common an occurrence.
I can see the point that it kind of cheapens it when it's all built up to happen at once. Maybe spreading their major events out a little more throughout the season would help give some more time to really think about the stories. If the Stannis scene happened at the end of an episode, it'd give you some time to mull it over. Now it's just immediately followed by the next scene. In that sense books work better, as it's easier to set the pace yourself and process things as you read them.
That said, I still love this show and I thought it was a great finale. Ollyyyyyy!!!!
Most of the show storylines are caught up with the books now, right? Arya's story is still a little bit further ahead in the books, and I guess Podrienne, but they've kind off gone off and done other things instead so maybe not. There's still some pretty big storylines from the books not yet in the show, such as (SPOILER)Lady Stoneheart and Young Griff but who knows, they may not even show up at all. Am I forgetting anything?
I can see my issues be mostly show related and be a bit better in the books based on pacing of certain events. Who knows. I did like the finale and still really enjoy the show. That aspect of the books, though, I don't think translates as well into television storytelling at the least. I haven't read the books enough to know how well it works there.
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