It is quite possible that it is just plot holes/inconsistencies, too. I do not deny that.
It is quite possible that it is just plot holes/inconsistencies, too. I do not deny that.
Definitely, but regardless, it was totally cool.
Originally Posted by Fynn
In the books, Robb married Jeyne Westerling. The Westerlings are a small house sworn to the Lannisters. There are similar theories that Jeyne Westerling's mother remained loyal to the Lannisters after her daughter married Robb and worked against Robb. It's never confirmed ore refuted in the books. I would not be surprised if this theory never gets confirmed or refuted either.
The books do heavily imply that (SPOILER)Jeyne Westerling's mother was giving her moon tea, unbeknownst to her, in order to ensure she wouldn't conceive, which pretty much confirms they were loyal to the Lannisters and also heavily implies the whole thing was a setup. For whatever that's worth.
Switching allegiances to the winning side of a war isn't the same thing. Not honoring a proposed exchange would damage the Lannister name; he wouldn't do it.
Daily reminder that Caligula and Joffrey look exactly the same:
I love his eyes. Like, wow. They are truly corn husk blue.
Proposed by whom? Nobody approached him asking if he would agree to his terms. Instead, his son would show up with one knight--a woman, no less--and insisting that they return the Stark daughters, after he already has his son back and they have no leverage. It would be stupid, and Tywin isn't stupid. He's not breaking any promises because he made no promises.
You don't seem to understand the rules of conduct between honorable houses.
I think you overestimate the amount of honour in both houses.
Let's put it this way: If Tywin didn't agree to the exchange - and as he didn't propose it he's well within his rights - does that mean he allows Brienne (and Jaime) back all the way to Robb's army? If Tywin is so honourable and felt it a fair exchange, why didn't he send Sansa back the moment the Starks had Jaime?
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
That comparison with Joffrey is creepy as hell.
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Tywin Lannister would not accept an offer he has already benefitted from if he has already benefitted from it without accepting it.
He would absolutely honour the terms of any arrangement he agreed to, though the way in which he honours those terms would depend on how well-defined they were.
Catelyn freed Jaime because the offer was made by Tyrion. She questioned the dagger story at the same time Tyrion was making a name as a man of his word. Whether or not Tywin would honor the exchange is debatable, although given his modus operandi he probably would have came up with a really, really shady way to twist the thing around as not an exchange and kill everyone.
As far as the "honeypot" Talisa theories, I have to believe that there's a reason she was invented for the show, since she doesn't really consolidate plot threads or make explicit subtle points from the book. I have faith that it's going to be a giant mindsmurf for readers who thought they knew what was coming.
I think you didn't read the books so I give zero smurfs what you think.
YES I WENT THERE. YOU DON'T KNOW trout UNLESS YOU GOT ALL THE DEETS, BITCH.
You know nothing, Loony BoB.
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