Lord of the Instant Martial Training?

[Unbreakable Will]

I'm rewatching the LotR movies again, due to the recent chit chat on them, and I was wondering where the 'new' orcs made by Saruman learn to fight. Seems like a hole in the story to me, although I haven't read the books.
Now that I look at it, this seems like a dumb question but it's bugging me.

[Miriel]

The same places that the vampires in Buffy learned to fight. You crawl out of the ground and you just know.

[kotora]

a wizard did it

[Bunny]

They're bloodthirsty orcs. They are born with the knowledge of kicking ass.

[NorthernChaosGod]

They're bloodthirsty orcs. They are born with the knowledge of kicking ass.

This. They're bred from orcs and men to be better, it's in their blood.

[Hollycat]

What sick lady would mate with an orc, I mean most of them are missing body parts, do they even have dingalings. If I was a lady and a wizard told me I had to mate with an orc, Id commit suicide then and there.

[Unbreakable Will]

Once you go orc...

And I suppose inherent knowledge would make some sense

[Jiro]

They're bloodthirsty orcs. They are born with the knowledge of kicking ass.

This. They're bred from orcs and men to be better, it's in their blood.

Saruman states in film that they are part-orc part-goblin. A smurfed up hybrid that took the best of both worlds and then injected some 'roids for good measure. There's a whole lot of uncertainty about their exact origins though.

Also, there is a large period of time between Lurtz being "born" and them actually heading on down to Amon Hen. Training could have easily taken place, plus there's also the whole "bred as war machines" business. If you actually watch how they fight at Amon Hen though, you could argue they don't have any fighting style. I mean Boromir, rest his soul, smurfed up heaps of them while he had arrows in his chest. The only reason they're any good at all is because they're all beefed up and full of rage. RAGE.

Then, of course, at Helm's Deep they fight like real fighters which is easy because they had training. Plus beserkers. ANYWAY.

EDIT: There were half-orcs which came about due to Saruman breeding orcs with the wildmen of Dunland. Probably against their will, yah? But it's possible Saruman repeated this, but with the right mix of herbs and spices to create his Uruk Hai. Apparently he was following a "recipe" Sauron invented, which explains the nastiness and complete inversion of the half-orcs' traits.

[Hollycat]

orc porn


get that out of your head

[NorthernChaosGod]

Yeah, Jiro!

[Jiro]

Whoa whoa whoa back up. You guys try and call yourselves "fans" and you've not got the stomach to consider the origins of one of the fiercest creatures in all of Middle Earth? smurf that noise, I will look at orc porn if it validates my position as a true fan

[NorthernChaosGod]

Oh, I meant that I was right about the Uruk-Hai

[Jiro]

...I stand by everything I said. Well that sure was awkward

[blackmage_nuke]

Orcs have the right to make love just like any other being. All they want is equal rights, no wonder they are lead astray by the promises of Sauron after their shunning from elves, hobbits, dwarves and men.

[Rantz]

Orcs can do whatever they want in private, just as long as they don't do it where I have to see it. And orcs getting married? It just isn't right.