Duodecim is OUT!

[Hollycat]

I.
may not be able to after all. I mean. I wont get much at gamestop, and if I do, I could use the money for gas or something. Being poor sucks. (The only reason Im able to play the games Ive got is because of $3 deals at half price. sad face) I may have to wait a few years. It irritates me that I cant get a job. I do bachelor degree level designs in under 45 minutes, but I cant get a job. ....... I hate being me sometimes, some idiot hit my car and drove off in a parking lot, and fixing that has drained my account......

[Skyblade]

Well, the thing that killed Prologus for me turns out to be optional. It's an ability called "Ground Dash", that can be swapped out for the standard "Air Dash" by anyone who wants it. Which I don't.

Tifa is probably my favorite new fighter. She actually reminds me a lot of Terra from Dissidia (haven't messed with Terra much yet in Duodecim). They have the same sort of fun feel to their playstyles. Tifa is just a melee version.

[black orb]

>>> Damn, I didnt realize it was out already. I guess I`ll get it tomorrow..

[Skyblade]

Oh, yes, and the absolute worst thing about this game: The load times. They are absolutely ridiculous. Even with the maximum data install, the game seems to take longer to load than it does to play. Absolutely horrendous.

[Mo-Nercy]

Well, the thing that killed Prologus for me turns out to be optional. It's an ability called "Ground Dash", that can be swapped out for the standard "Air Dash" by anyone who wants it. Which I don't.

It's not so bad. It'll suit people who like to play off the ground, since Air Dash automatically puts your character into the air. For example, I like being able to go straight into Thunder -> Solid Barrel -> Chase with Squall instead of either waiting that risky split second for him to land on the ground again or go in closer for a Beat Fang instead. It's not a swap out either, you can equip it alongside Air Dash. I didn't play Prologus, but if it made you choose between Ground or Air Dash, that would be pretty annoying.

Oh, yes, and the absolute worst thing about this game: The load times. They are absolutely ridiculous. Even with the maximum data install, the game seems to take longer to load than it does to play. Absolutely horrendous.

Agreed. Especially when you're rocking a large party in Labyrinth or Quick Battle. You have to move in and out of menus to set up all your characters and the load times are way too long.

[Skyblade]

Well, the thing that killed Prologus for me turns out to be optional. It's an ability called "Ground Dash", that can be swapped out for the standard "Air Dash" by anyone who wants it. Which I don't.

It's not so bad. It'll suit people who like to play off the ground, since Air Dash automatically puts your character into the air. For example, I like being able to go straight into Thunder -> Solid Barrel -> Chase with Squall instead of either waiting that risky split second for him to land on the ground again or go in closer for a Beat Fang instead. It's not a swap out either, you can equip it alongside Air Dash. I didn't play Prologus, but if it made you choose between Ground or Air Dash, that would be pretty annoying.

Prologus had Ground Dash always equipped, and since I was so used to just Air Dash from the original, it messed up my attacks and combos a ton. Very frustrating. Not saying it doesn't have its uses, but it needs to be optional, not forced.

Oh, yes, and the absolute worst thing about this game: The load times. They are absolutely ridiculous. Even with the maximum data install, the game seems to take longer to load than it does to play. Absolutely horrendous.

Agreed. Especially when you're rocking a large party in Labyrinth or Quick Battle. You have to move in and out of menus to set up all your characters and the load times are way too long.

Oh, goody, I haven't even tried the party battles yet. Something to look forward to...

[Wolf Kanno]

I'm kind of sad that I really like using Yuna, she's actually pretty fun and her moves have some ridiculous range which is going to make using some characters problematic against her. Her EX-Burst could be a little more impressive though...

I'm not feeling Laguna's voice (way too high and youthful sounding from what I imagined it being) but dear god if his dialogue and story sequences are not funny as hell. I like his style but he comes across as someone who is going to spam two or three overpowered moves and the majority of his future abilities are just fluff to make him sound more entertaining despite not being practical. His EX-Mode (Yuna's as well) is pretty nasty, zero lag between attacks.

I'm surprised how very short the whole Tidus/Jecht scenario was in the game and I'm guessing that Cloud's won't be any longer either (I'm slowly going through the game, and taking my time by completing a chapter a night). Its a shame really cause they could have really dragged out Kuja, Terra, Tidus, and Jecht's plots. Course it may be too early to say this.

It looks like equipment has been completely overhauled with most of it being sectioned off into level brackets (Level 1, then jumps to level 30 etc...) which is kind of nice cause it gives you more options without having to wait for your character to reach better levels, so they can get their hands on more overpowered gear. I forgot how much of a pain it was to unlock everything in the shop though...

I'm liking the music this time around as well, especially the world map theme choices for Laguna, Vaan, and Yuna. I'm curious to hear what they chose for Tifa (crossing fingers for "On the Other side of the Mountain") and Kain (crossing fingers for Betrayal: Kain's Theme).

[Mercen-X]

So, I'm curious. What happened to the summon system? Is it still in effect or did they trash it in order for Yuna's Aeons to make sense?
I think it would be great if Yuna wasn't limited to using Aeons. I'd like to be able to summon Ultima from XII.

[Wolf Kanno]

Its still the same as the original Dissidia. Yuna is restricted to her Aeons from X but I haven't seen Yojimbo, Magus Sisters, or Mrs. "I win" yet in her attacks. Though XII's Ultima has been confirmed as a normal summonstone you can equip on anyone. I hear she's smurfing broken as well.

[Jessweeee♪]

Well, the thing that killed Prologus for me turns out to be optional. It's an ability called "Ground Dash", that can be swapped out for the standard "Air Dash" by anyone who wants it. Which I don't.

Ground Dash was the default in Prologus? Weird! I read your post complaining about it before, and I was like "omg no." I was very relieved when I got into my first battle, because I'm pretty much always in the air.

Oh, yes, and the absolute worst thing about this game: The load times. They are absolutely ridiculous. Even with the maximum data install, the game seems to take longer to load than it does to play. Absolutely horrendous.

I have the entire game on my memory stick and it's just bearable enough. I imagine it would be annoying if I hadn't.

Its still the same as the original Dissidia. Yuna is restricted to her Aeons from X but I haven't seen Yojimbo, Magus Sisters, or Mrs. "I win" yet in her attacks. Though XII's Ultima has been confirmed as a normal summonstone you can equip on anyone. I hear she's smurfing broken as well.

Pffft, all her Aeons are Mrs. "I win."

[Wolf Kanno]

Not Ixion, he just sucks...

I've decided I really hate the rules for the extra AP in fights, building up the BRV to perform the HP attack can sometimes be a pain but what really irks me is that you don't get credit if the enemy hits you with any attack. What annoys me the most about this is that the game doesn't really explain this to you very well, so it took a few fights to figure out this extra rule.

The more I play Kain, the more I love him.

[Mo-Nercy]

I've decided I really hate the rules for the extra AP in fights, building up the BRV to perform the HP attack can sometimes be a pain but what really irks me is that you don't get credit if the enemy hits you with any attack. What annoys me the most about this is that the game doesn't really explain this to you very well, so it took a few fights to figure out this extra rule.

It seems a bit hit and miss for me. Or maybe I'm not paying enough attention to the fights, but sometimes I'm absolutely sure that my first HP attack meets the AP criteria, but I get nothing, even if the opponent hasn't attacked yet.

The more I play Kain, the more I love him.

Best of the new characters I'd say, if we were to put together a rough tier list. I still like using Laguna for the lol factor of having him whip out a mini-Ragnarok whenever he HP attacks. xD

[Jessweeee♪]

I just love Laguna's EX Burst. Ragnarok comes crashing in while he shouts GREATEST ATTACK EEEVEEER

[Skyblade]

Not Ixion, he just sucks...

I've decided I really hate the rules for the extra AP in fights, building up the BRV to perform the HP attack can sometimes be a pain but what really irks me is that you don't get credit if the enemy hits you with any attack. What annoys me the most about this is that the game doesn't really explain this to you very well, so it took a few fights to figure out this extra rule.

The more I play Kain, the more I love him.

The game doesn't explain the AP chance rule to you at all. It took me a couple fights as well, and I also hate it.

Fortunately, I got all the calender bonuses transferred from Dissidia, so I get lots of bonus AP days, giving the max benefit, which keeps me learning abilities.

[Wolf Kanno]

Mine were transferred as well but the game keeps giving me the shaft...

Tifa is the Ex-Death of the Warriors of Cosmos. She's been a pain to go through story mode with the AP rule. Not to mention her uber optional mook fight against a level 18 Ex-Death when she's barely level 10 is a pain in the ass...

Tried out party mode in Quick Battle and must say its is pretty smurfing awesome. Especially since you're whole party gets levels but you only switch out a character when they are finally defeated... Meaning I've been raising levels for the new characters by just using Kain to rape all the opponents. The new Rule system is also pretty awesome. EX-Centric rules means that EX-core will automatically fill up your gauge and it depletes incredibly slowly... I'm sure every Cloud and Gabranth player will insist on using these rules.

Assist rules is similar with the assist gauge filling up almost everytime you land an attack, BRV Centric makes the amount of BRV you earn from stage bravery and attacks really high making for excellent quick battles. In party mode you also get to assign job classes to characters that affect their abilites in combat. There is a bunch of variety for combat now.