P4 - Mafia XIX Game Thread - [Game Over] Mafia DOMINATION

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Now that's just downright creepy.
I should really just vote soon, It's my duty.

[[M] Adama]

I thought traditional last requests were cigarettes, not panties.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

This is Kashi we're talking about.
Goodness I'll just go for the tie because I feel equally about both mitsuo and teddie.
##vote: Teddie

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

He DID ask for them earlier. Were you wanting them, perhaps?

[[M] Felix]

Looks like the bandwagon has switched to Mitsuo. I hope for the sake of everyone who voted to lynch him he is guilty or you are wasting towns time with a needless lynch.

Again Teddie, why did you claim to be mafia in pig latin? Everything else you've said makes sense now except for that! Care to clarify?

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

If I was to ask for some, it would be from a more expensive prostitute.

Anyway, one more vote will determine the one who get's lynched. It's anyones game at this point.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

This is Kashi we're talking about.
Goodness I'll just go for the tie because I feel equally about both mitsuo and teddie.
##vote: Teddie

A tie? This just won't do. I'm contemplating voting for Mitsuo because I already gave him my panties.

[[M] Adama]

I don't like this bandwagonning. Surely not all the votes for either candidate can be justified at this point in the game. Oh, bother.

He DID ask for them earlier. Were you wanting them, perhaps?

Not at all. Yuck.

[[M] Caprica]

Teddie I must have missed where you explained something to me, and I am sorry I did. Could you please point it out? Because apparently I'm too dumb to notice it myself.

I will try to explain the whole thing and where I went wrong if you think it'll help.

I hope you're not mafia because the crazy person on Day 1 rarely is but until I'm 100% sure you're not vote stays on you.

I disagree, if the day were to end right now Teddie would be lynched. I hope that the town lynches a mafia member. (Or Cult leader, serial killer, or any other role that is bad news for the town)

For the good of town Kanji I hope he is mafia because it takes the town closer to victory. But at the same time I'd hate to see a townie draw the ire of town & needlessly get themselves lynch if you catch my drift.

I do and I agree. Sometimes semantics can make the message the opposite of the intention, and this game is confusing enough already. It was easy to mistake your post as hoping that we were lynching a townie, which alarmed me. Glad thats taken care of.

Right here, Kanji, you have just said the game is already confusing. You are also happy something was explained to you and expressed relief. As a jerk with a rope around my neck I was miffed.

I was referring to the game of mafia as a whole, not just this particular game. See, semantics can make a very big impact on how a post can look.

I know you need comforting, since it is you who is heading the block, but what is confusing? You're lynching an impolite bear. It is so very, very clear and simple right now. Call back in a day if you make it, kuma.

I meant you did not need comfort or peace of mind since it is me who is heading to the gallows. I then put the situation out in clear terms so as to avoid any misunderstanding. The last part indicates the rest of the game is only going to be harder for you on the condition you live through it. The conditional term is in there because people have the unfortunate habit of dying in this game.

As you see in the quote you brought up below, I explained what makes the game of mafia confusing. Because you asked me to.

I know you need comforting, since it is you who is heading the block, but what is confusing? You're lynching an impolite bear. It is so very, very clear and simple right now. Call back in a day if you make it, kuma.

The confusing thing is that there are people in this town called the mafia who are going to use everything in their power to make themselves look innocent and other people look guilty. We (The townspeople) have to decide for ourselves which arguments are from a townie and which are laced with mafia poison. There is no way to be 100% sure short of their role revelation upon their death. It's actually funny how this very confusion is part of what makes this game fun though.

Also can you please clarify the last sentence please? Right now I read it as you are saying that you won't be lynched and I'll die tonight, and thats a distressing thought.

Here is where you express confusion. I get angry again. At this time, I am still the best candidate for the lynch. I did not and do not know if you will die at night since that is something beyond my control. Unless I'm scum and even then I'll be too dead to make you dead too so it's still impossible for me to say for certain whether you will die at night.

I expressed confusion on the last sentence because it felt out of place. I said what it felt like you were saying, the connotation.

Also can you please clarify the last sentence please? Right now I read it as you are saying that you won't be lynched and I'll die tonight, and thats a distressing thought.

See, this is why I have been hopping mad all day. Why do you think this? Why do you take a conditional and turn it into a definitive? When you say "last sentence" did you mean "entire post" because your worries extend past what was contained in the last sentence. I'm dying today, so I'm upset. You're not, so why would you be? If you think today is confusing, wait until tomorrow and the day after and the day after. I'm saying everything as simple as I can and yet it is like repeatedly ramming my head into a wall. I do not think anyone can clarify things for you. Ever. Kuma.

I wish the town the best, kuma.

The imbedded explanation which could be easily missed due to the, oh, insults littering the rest of the paragraph.

I have not been very good at keeping the stress in my real life from overflowing into the game. I do realize we have some new players here and I have been very impatient and short with them and everyone. I should not have been as curt and rude as I have been. I sincerely apologize for that much and hope the rest of the game is more enjoyable than I have made it today.

Yes. When you sandwich an explanation with insults it tends to be missed. It sounded like a threat. It's obvious that people die in mafia.

Also I believe that the confusion decreases as the days go by. There is more evidence to go on about different people, and their actions become more meaningful as more information is revealed. At first we know nothing. By endgame, all the pieces start to come together.

[[M] Felix]

Right I'm off to bed, my vote stays on Teddie, I'll check back in the morning

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Yeah I'm feeling better thanks for asking. Panties. Woohoo. Exactly what a kid wants for his deathday.

And I'm going to say this one last time, even though you wont beleive me and it may push me over the edge to lynchdom: I have no clue if teddie is good or bad, but he did claim mafia. I am not the enemy of most of you (die mafians)

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I think I'm going to sleep now, I may pop in in a while

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

This is Kashi we're talking about.
Goodness I'll just go for the tie because I feel equally about both mitsuo and teddie.
##vote: Teddie

A tie? This just won't do. I'm contemplating voting for Mitsuo because I already gave him my panties.

you can have your panties back.

[[M] Athena]

You know when I came back and there were 4 extra pages, I expected something of substances dudes. Ugh.

Teddie should know better than to mess about and make jokes about being mafia. It's not funny, but it's almost obligatory.

Now I could analyze this and find something to jump on, but I won't find that helpful at all.

I'm still sus on Mitsuo. It took a long time to sort that role confusion out, and like has been mentioned, there's been a lot of polite but not very helpful posts. Being loud without saying anything is a good way to hide in plain sight.

My vote stays.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

You know when I came back and there were 4 extra pages, I expected something of substances dudes. Ugh.

Teddie should know better than to mess about and make jokes about being mafia. It's not funny, but it's almost obligatory.

Now I could analyze this and find something to jump on, but I won't find that helpful at all.

I'm still sus on Mitsuo. It took a long time to sort that role confusion out, and like has been mentioned, there's been a lot of polite but not very helpful posts. Being loud without saying anything is a good way to hide in plain sight.

My vote stays.

Substance on the first day? Blasphemy!