Kefka Sucks. Kuja Is Better

[Wolf Kanno]

Yeah, so he's basically like Zemus who is not revealed as late as some people make him out to be.

I have to finish some assignments for school cause I accidentally wasted my weekend cause some stuff arrived earlier than anticipated. But you can bet your ass I'm coming in to give my two cents at a later time.

[Del Murder]

After 50% of the game is considered 'late' to me. I do not want to chase something for 20 hours only to find out it was a good guy under mind control, or there was some other much badder boss of this boss. I hate when the Japanese pull that crap.

[black orb]

>>> Both are pretty much the same to me..

[Carl the Llama]

I would like to ask you guys who think x character should have been introduced into x game, I should hear your thoughts on the matter, I like that there was an extra boss to take down that I didn't know about from the start, 1 last challenge, like say a victory lap if you will.

With regards to the whole Yu Yevon thing how else would you explain that the previous Final Aeon defeated Sin and in turn become Sin again, it makes perfect sense to me.

[Depression Moon]

Necron was a nod to the final bosses of the first five Final Fantasies, but especially to Cloud of Darkness. A giant space flea from nowhere that wants to destroy everything because it can.

I thought it was because it/he's supposed to. The crystal was the source of life and it being destroyed by the hands of Kuja brings the ender of all life forward. As Necron says "He(Kuja) concluded he could only save himself
by destroying the origin of all things--the crystal."
"I exist for one purpose... To return everything back to the
zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life.
In a world of nothing, fear does not exist. This is the world
that all life desires."
Oh wait it sounds like...the crystal was still there hmmm...

[Heath]

I'm relatively divided between the two of them; I like them both a lot but for different reasons.

Kefka, I think is a more memorable villain. He has much more amusement value and I find that his evil is generally more unhinged and less logical. He appears a bit bumbling and soft when you see him in Doma and Narshe, and you're never quite sure whether to take him at face value. I didn't think he was the deepest villain ever, but he's presented well and is different from your typical villains.

Kuja, I probably marginally prefer, though I can't remember how I voted in the census. His reasons for what he does are more emotional than Kefka's and for that reason I think he's more evil in his motives, if not in his methods. Kefka's unhinged and that fact is made clear from the off, whereas Kuja hangs around in the shadows a bit, schemes and manipulates. The way Kuja knocks off Brahne was clearly something that had been in his mind for quite some time, whereas Kefka betraying Gestahl seems to be more primal and something he seizes when he sees it in front of him. The thought had clearly occurred to him before, but I see him as less conniving than Kuja, who clearly only became involved with Alexandria in the first place to further his own goals. The emotional level of villains is something I find to be relatively hit-and-miss, but I find Kuja to be believable, to have a bit more substance than usual and to just be generally quite cool. For all those that criticise Kuja for looking feminine or whatever, I think that's part of his charm - he's clearly not of this world, is mysterious and unique - it makes finding out more about Kuja that bit more interesting, whereas Kefka doesn't really have that.

[Laddy]

Both destroy planets, both become almost godlike, both are flamboyant and scantily dressed.

I like them equally. I'm in a four-way tie for Golbez, Kefka, Sephiroth, and Kuja as my favorite villains, tbh. ;D

[Big D]

Both destroy planets

To be fair, Kuja actually wins on this front. He destroyed one planet and severely messed up another. Kefka, in comparison, 'merely' managed to mess up just one world.

[Mercen-X]

True, I don't know Kefka that well, I've never completed VI and can't find my copy of Anthology, Kuja, despite being gay and despite being a whiny brat (like Genesis), still manages to be pretty cool... despite himself.
FYI, I consider Necron to be an extension of Kuja (being formed from his malice toward the world) and think of him as a third form of Kuja.

[Hollycat]

Don't ever compare Kuja to Genesis, Genesis is Awesome

[G13]

Genesis was a Sephiroth ripoff. Sephiroth > Kuja > Genesis.

[Hollycat]

genesis isn't anything like sephiroth, he doesnt want destruction, just to be cured

[Forsaken Lover]

Kuja wasn't a whiny brat. In fact, despite the fact he was often pissed off and hating his life, he acted quite suave and in control.

Genesis did whine a lot though.

[Hollycat]

Kuja wasn't a whiny brat. In fact, despite the fact he was often pissed off and hating his life, he acted quite suave and in control.

Genesis did whine a lot though.

you don't remember the end of the game do you?

Genesis never whined at all, he just spoke in riddles. this thread isn't about Genesis and I wont hear any negative remarks about him!

[Laddy]

Genesis was indeed a waste of space, just like the rest of the Compilation, which pretty much exists only for yaoi fans to write really odd stories.

Kuja and Kefka were the best villains, imo. Kuja was extremely well-written and somehwat sympathetic, with his connection to Zidane more believable than most said twists. kefka was just a crazy as hell mothersmurfer and I loved him. Golbez and Sephiroth are good villains, too!