Exactly how it is at my house...

[NorthernChaosGod]

You were a teenager, long ago.

[Madame Adequate]

You were a teenager, long ago.

Yes, back in the Noachian era.

[Jentleness]

It's because you haven't shown him the consequences of not listening to you. I can hook you up with a good deal on a stun gun if you want.

Can I order it online? I have my credit card ready to go!

[blackmage_nuke]

My mum says a lot of things, some of it's important but its hidden in mountains of unimportant stuff, and if it's important enough my dad will say it too, so i use to just listen to him instead of filtering it out myself

[Peegee]

You were a teenager, long ago.

Yes, back in the Noachian era.

Way to be esoteric you jerk.

Evolutionary history of Mars – University of Copenhagen

[Shlup]

You were a teenager, long ago.

I don't see what point you are trying to make here.

It's because you haven't shown him the consequences of not listening to you. I can hook you up with a good deal on a stun gun if you want.

Can I order it online? I have my credit card ready to go!

I will hand-deliver it to you so that I can show you the easiest ways to subdue these beasts.

[Jentleness]

You're my hero ShlupQuack :hello:

[Peegee]

You're my hero ShlupQuack :hello:

you are both from california. how are you not bffs already?

[NorthernChaosGod]

Better question: Why haven't we hung out?

[Jentleness]

It's because I'm in northern California, near Sacramento (I'm stuck in Lodi). However, I will make a point of making a post to inform you and ShlupQuack that I will be in the area, if I'm ever down that way.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Yay!

[Peegee]

Yay!

>implying you even visit shlup, even though you're next door neighbours

that's right. I said neighbours. get confused at my british spelling!

[Jentleness]

Yay!

>implying you even visit shlup, even though you're next door neighbours

that's right. I said neighbours. get confused at my british spelling!

I am only confused why you would believe confusion would abound if you chose to spell neighbors and neighbours...?

[NorthernChaosGod]

Yay!

>implying you even visit shlup, even though you're next door neighbours

that's right. I said neighbours. get confused at my british spelling!

Amanda doesn't like me.

[Iceglow]

I think it's just the usual as a teenage (or older) guy you want to feel more independent and this typically in suburban families rears it's head as a rebellious streak against the mother (who is face it, more likely to fuss over their child than a dad) this rebellious streak can manifest itself in many different ways but most common and least harmful would be the "tell me not to do something and I'll do it to prove I can, ask me to do something and I'll ignore it as long as I can just because." In the a-typical nuclear family image (i.e. 2 parents and child(ren) that is, as opposed to the single parent family) the parent most often left to discipline the children is the Dad, Mom's get to play the good cop. Dad's generally have to be the bad cop. Therefore in the teenage rebellious phase when the Mother asks for things to be done she can safely be ignored for she is good cop. If the father then says something along the lines of "What did your mother just ask you to do?" it's kinda like the bad cop threatening to get involved. Since this is counteracting the freedom of the child the child generally speaking will do what is then asked of them but will not take any pride or place any real effort in to the job.

In single parent families it gets a little more complicated...the parent tends to have to be both good and bad cop and it makes them look like a schizophrenic. I think my Mom (I am from a single parent family) merely found it easier in the end to leave me to get on with it. I made mistakes and I have learnt harsh lessons. Lessons I am sure I would never have been free to make the required mistakes to learn if my Dad had still been alive. She tried to be bad cop with me but that just meant I ended up ignoring her completely. In hindsight I don't wish that I had listened to her more prior to entering adult life. I do however wish I had listened to my 15 year older, elder brother more because he actually talked sense to me 95% of the time, the 5% of the times he didn't were like when he convinced me that Santa was a martian and that the song from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (of the same name) was actually sung ty ty Bang Bang. Needless to say, my teachers in school hated my brother which made him immortally cool in my eyes as a young child.

But yeah you kinda have yourself, and your husband to blame for raising the kids in the stereotypical nuclear family style... Of course there are some instances where the Dad is in your position and the mom holds the reigns of power. I guess it just depends on which one is good cop and which one is bad as a child.