Oh, nice. I didn't expect to see it posted on YouTube this soon. Thanks for sharing it!
I believe in the power of humanity.
This. And he could've used more screen time. He had no opportunity to develop an interesting personality, and didn't have an apparent motivation for being evil besides simply for the sake of being evil. I don't think he ever even had a direct confrontation with anyone, except at the beginning when he messed up Shining Armor's horn.
By the end of part 1, my wife turned and asked me if it was just her or if it was boring. While I wasn't exactly bored, I was certainly far from enthralled. In fact, there were even some cringe-worth moments as it almost felt the like a character was trying to hard to do what they do. Sort of a mugging for the camera thing.
After about the 3rd time in part 2 where I heard King Sombra say, "Aaauggh!!" I realized that I didn't care because he wasn't developed as a character at all. I suppose the Crystal Empire itself was supposed to be the character, but in the past, Discord, Queen Chrysalis,and even Nightmare Moon had more character development in their respective episodes that let you know who they are and what they were about.
The Crystal Empire thing almost seemed, too transparently, like a way to push the crystal pony toys I haven't given a crap about so far. The premise also feel a little flat. It was an almost entirely Twilight focused episode with the rest of their characters being coloring and barely being involved with the main plot in anyway, just mugging their personalities, poorly, outside of the story.
It also seems sad that, with all in the balance, Twilight still thinks of this as a literal test, and in the end, that's pretty much the case as Celestia passes her. From the beginning I thought it was a situation where there was no real test, and ultimately the "test" was metaphorical. It was for her to help the crystal empire, like a member of Celestia's court. Not like a silly student worrying about grades.
I really got cringey every time she mentioned the test thing in the second part. I guess ultimately the capital 'm' Moral comes from her giving up her chance to get an A so that the kingdom can be saved. Really?!
Despite it all, I was really happy to see my ponies again, but with only 13 eps this season, I hope they do a little better going forward. Character development episodes, please. That's what makes me care. If you're not going to develop the villain, either don't have one, or develop the other ponies more strongly in their place.
In honor of the great King Sombra, I made a tumblr blog in which you can delight him with stairs.
I am King Sombra, and I love stairs!
I must admit, I was not on board with this show at first.
I recently sent a PM to MILF, stating that while I was curious about the show I couldn't help but feeling it had bandwagon written all over it. In the likes of Tim Burton films, Invader Zim, and the resurgence of TMNT and Power Ranger fans, this show had the feeling of "childrens show which someone on the internet likes and eventually becomes a bandwagon theme for forums galore!"
Despite all that, the fascination people have with this show has in turn fascinated me to know what all the hype is about. For example, I just recently watched a video from a hilarious YouTuber which I encourage you all to watch:
After hearing what this guy had to say I figured "What the heck, I'll watch a couple episodes".
I have to say...I was pleasantly surprised. My reaction to the first episode is about what I expected it would be: Cute kids show about ponies and friendship....and then the episode ended in a cliffhanger, so I thought "No no, I've got to watch the next one". And it was after the second episode I knew I was going to keep watching. I was reminded of Final Fantasy, with the way it seemed each character had their own crystal of power that together allowed them to face and take down evil. I had quickly grown an enjoyment for the characters and the story.
With all that being said, I do still believe there is a certain element of bandwagon appeal to the show for some people. However I am now way more open to the idea that people genuinely like the show simply because it's an awesome show, which is a stance I should have taken in the first place.
On a side note, I like the idea that this show can be a catalyst for men who don't have a normal outlet to express their feminine side and that there is an increasing number of males who reject traditional society placed gender restrictions.
I've only seen 5 episodes so far, so I can't say I've gone brony quite yet. I could tell you what I think makes this show awesome, but you all already know why it is. I'll close with what MILF told me:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
Last edited by Lone Wolf Leonhart; 11-11-2012 at 11:29 AM.
I'm pretty much with Yearg on this one. What bothered me most was the very end, we have all five of our main ponies there. Spike is falling, and the way they save him is Magicless Shining Armor tosses the extremely exhausted Cadence to catch Spike, fly him to the center of town, and use her magic to place the heart?
We have Rainbow Dash and Rarity who, together, could have accomplished all that.
With them handling the Heart and Spike, we had Apple Jack, Fluttershy, and Pinkie Pie all able to worry about the King.
This marks twice we've had the barely developed duo of Shining Armor and Cadence saving the day at the end.
And by now, Twilight should know better then to think she would 'fail' by others helping her. Season three and this still being a complex for her is stretching it.
That asside, the best part of these episodes were varies small jokes throughout, such as RD poking fun at Rarity when they first arrived, or Pinkie Pie showing up in the Fluttershy suit.![]()
I saw it and loved it. Here is my basic opinion of the episode;
I might as well get this out of the way; I am really pleased that they still credit Lauren for creating the show. I realize that I seem to be the only brony who cares about her, but it was reasuring to see that she is still getting credit for creating the show. I think that the episode was good especially when you consider it was the first to not involve her at all.
I really enjoyed the storyline of the episode, and it shows that those left behind still get what the show is all about. The crystal kingdom looked absolutely amazing, and I would totally go there if it was real. There were some pretty cool call backs to past generations, which also reasured me (I was fearful that they were going to stop these after Lauren left, but thankfully they didn't). For those of you who didn't understand; I think that Twilight refering to it as a test was a kind of reverse psychology thing. It makes sense in context. I thought everypony looked awesome in crystal form, even though it was clearly a way to sell the toys. Interestingly; while "it's just a ploy to sell toys" is something that haters have always said about MLP since it began, this is the first time it's ever happened so blatently...
I kind of see Uncle Big Hand's point about Shining Armor and Cadance. I wonder if it was Hasbro's way of making up for introuducing them to us during season 1, and then not using them until season 2? At least they've come up with some justification for Cadance to have wings now.
Sombra... I'm afraid he was the weakest link in the chain. He barely had any lines, there wasn't enough of him to really show any form of personality, even in flashback when he had a solid form he did next to nothing. Normally I'd be able to see past this, and just think of it as an opening for fans to do better (if I can find a place for him in my fanseries, I will make more of an effort for him). The problem with that is King Sombra is a FANMADE character. It must be pretty annoying for whoever won the contest to create the vilain of the episode to find that after all that, Hasbro gave him no personallity...
Finally, was I the only one who found(SPOILER)the door that makes whoever opens it experience their fears, interesting? I really wanted to see what the other characters would have seen if they had done it. Ironically, I planned on doing a similar thing (not exactly the same) on my fanseries... funny how things turn out.
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Also, so much cute to save!
Not to me, but that's not saying much
Seen that view a lot and there's some truth to it, but I think it's genuinely great quality, I also like how they let the fandom actually feed into it.
Good on you for being open minded enough to check it out and not blindly hate it, I know my RL friend would (he's a wonderful person but yes, er, to say he hates bandwagons or most pop music or really anything that he views as even possibly bandwagon-y would be an understatement)
All the fan creations are indeed awesome.
Check out "Ponies the Anthology" - I and II. They're LONG, but great.
A good point. And like FF (or most of them) it has very strongly defined characters. They may not have Shakespearian levels of character depth, but that's the point I think, nice simple fun characters with their own clear personalities that they can utilise in all these ways.I was reminded of Final Fantasy, with the way it seemed each character had their own crystal of power that together allowed them to face and take down evil. I had quickly grown an enjoyment for the characters and the story.
For sure, there's an element of that. There's nothing quite like shared joy IMO, that said I genuinely consider it good quality.With all that being said, I do still believe there is a certain element of bandwagon appeal to the show for some people. However I am now way more open to the idea that people genuinely like the show simply because it's an awesome show, which is a stance I should have taken in the first place.
Indeed, a good point, it's created a community where guys don't feel they have to be ashamed to let out their feminine side a little. That's a wonderful thing.On a side note, I like the idea that this show can be a catalyst for men who don't have a normal outlet to express their feminine side and that there is an increasing number of males who reject traditional society placed gender restrictions.
For me the brony community (e.g. ponychan etc) even made me feel secure enough to accept my own bisexuality as well which is really... quite something, for it to have done that. That's not to say all bronies are gay or bi, there are a lot of straight ones, but I've noticed it's opened up things for many of those too.
Fair enough that you aren't sure about "being a brony", but you've been open minded enough to "get it" and why others like it instead of thinking of them as silly and hats off to you for that. And yes, MILF describes the appeal better than I ever could, too.
Especially the thing of there being an element of fun, in a world that is often quite a mess, to remind us there are light and positive sides to the world too. I think that plays a huge part in why I love the whole thing.
I don't know about that! I do too and most bronies that I know still consider it "her" show. Glad indeed she continues to get credit.
Indeed, some people talk about the show being something to sell toys as an evil thing. But hey, Hasbro's not a charity, of course they're in it for money and there's nothing inherently evil about that. But the awesome thing is, while they could just churn out any old low quality rubbish and still sell toys, they genuinely love what they're creating. That's special. And hey, it HAS got me buying things hehe, I couldn't resist a brushable Dashie and some blind bags.
Side note, the blind bags have been Crystal Ponies for a little while now, before this season even started. I have a Crystal Rarity :3
Agreed with Sombra, not exactly the most exciting of villains. But I guess it wasn't really about him anyway, it was more about Twilight's "test" (not that she needed testing, but some of the world's leaders could learn a thing or two about her putting the people before the security of her own power)
I liked it all and all!
I've seen the fears concept somewhere else, and can't think where. Maybe Harry Potter or something?
I am very pleased to hear that. She's been getting very little credit from bronies for a long time. Hardly any of them seem to realize that she helped write every episode in Season 1 and 2, but everyone gets it wrong, and says she didn't... it's depressing.I don't know about that! I do too and most bronies that I know still consider it "her" show. Glad indeed she continues to get credit.
Kind of makes sense considering that the Crystal Ponies are named after a toyline from the third generation. What's more ironic is that that generation's version of Rarity was one of the first ponies to become one (hence her wanting to be one in this version.)Side note, the blind bags have been Crystal Ponies for a little while now, before this season even started. I have a Crystal Rarity :3
I dunno if it's been in Harry Potter, but it may very well be a trope of some sort. I have seen it used elsewhere, so I guess ultimately it doesn't matter if I still use the storyline I was planning on. As it is a FIM fanseries, it's going to reuse a few things, but this would have been a conicidence, but it could be reworked as an allusion, I don't know? I'm fine either way.I've seen the fears concept somewhere else, and can't think where. Maybe Harry Potter or something?
The bronies I know seem to know, but I tend to stick to smaller sub-communities anyway.
Didn't know that with the 3rd gen. Always interesting how much has been carried forward from previous generations!
I squee'd and said "you already are!" when Rarity said she wanted to be a crystal pony hehe~
Yeah I know I've seen the "look into this and you'll see your worst fear" concept somewhere before. I'd look on Tropes, but I'd be clicking around it for the next 12 hours haha.
That's good, it mostly seems to be on places like YouTube and the wikia for the most part. I'm glad that there are people who know this though. /)The bronies I know seem to know, but I tend to stick to smaller sub-communities anyway.
If you're interested, I have compiled a list of all the times FIM has alluded to previous generations, and I will continue to update it, as there is bound to be those moments I missed. I can show it to you, if you want.Didn't know that with the 3rd gen. Always interesting how much has been carried forward from previous generations!
I squee'd and said "you already are!" when Rarity said she wanted to be a crystal pony hehe~
I think you might be. As I'm steadily learning; everything is a trope these days.Yeah I know I've seen the "look into this and you'll see your worst fear" concept somewhere before. I'd look on Tropes, but I'd be clicking around it for the next 12 hours haha.