Quote Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER View Post
I understand a toy being made into a character, but thats really all it should influance, and it would look less like they're trying to sell toys. It's hard to explain to be honest.
Yeah I see what you're saying and agree with that.

To be quite fair, you hear all this about how Hasbro are interfering and driving the show from the toys from "bitter anonymous employees" in both companies but that's the point, they're anonymous and usually posted on places like 4chan which are notorious for people making stuff up for attention. For all we know everything is rosy between them (though some interference just seems realistic)

That's what people thought? Wow... I don't understand why, seeing as the episode was planned since season one, and based on an idea Lauren had when she was younger (like most of the season 1 episodes were). There were some bad-ish decisions on Hasbro's part such as retconing Cadance to being an alicorn, when she was scripted to be a unicorn (they clearly did it because they assumed royalty and alicorns were supposed to be synomninous, when I can actually provide back up that they are not, and an alicorn was just supposed to be another form of pony)
Ohh right? I didn't know she'd planned it herself and from that early. Seems I share ignorance with those parts of the fanbase on that one. I guess people didn't realise and just made assumptions. As they do. Another thing to make you wonder whether people are just being overly cynical to bring up all these supposed cases of the toys influencing something in the story they don't like (personally whilst these characters were a bit out of the blue and could have been introduced more gradually and eventually married, I enjoyed the episode and what they made of it.

Neither do I, simply because it's obvious from past episodes an (SPOILER)alicorn isn't something a pony becomes and the like. I'm sure they can somehow make it work though - as they have promised it won't change her personality (and there's no reason to believe that it would).
I guess we'll see tomorrow! I've noticed a lot of new merch coming out still has (SPOILER)unicorn Twilight so what I'm wondering is whether it's even permanent or whether works a bit like *thinks of a parallel*... equipping a dress sphere. I.e. she (SPOILER)puts her crown on and gains wings, takes it off and they go away again. So she'd only have them for royal occasions.

Yeah, I'm kind of in the same state of mind, the sad thing is (even though the toys came first) Hasbro have always been stronger when they let what's happening in the show influance the toys (or just let the toys do their own their own thing on occasion) and it's been true for every generation (though I don't mind the occasional toy inspiring the show - seeing as some toys clearly should have been in the show, based on their storylines, but never were). However, I won't get annoyed if they do go completly the otherway, as I like I say I will have the memory of being a fan, and will remain a fan if the worst possible thing happens, and the show ends up losing everything it had (I don't see that happening too soon though, I admit that S3 lost something without Lauren's input, but even the most flawed episode was still within the basic charm of the show - there's just a little more OOC stuff at first than there would have been I think.
Completely agreed. Let's just see, all this business of Hasbro suddenly going nuts could well be negativity from a worrying bunch of fans. People love their show and really fear it being messed up, so they dream up all the worst case stuff in a panic. Something that is seen in fandoms for everything.

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I would assume it's fanmade - I have seen (but not watched) much more better animated and drawn human-ponies episodes on YouTube - this doesn't even look as good as the style of the show itself (FIM: I mean), but even if it is real it will ultimately not affect the show in any way. Although, I kind of wish that they would give it another name. It shares it's name with a comerical that I really liked (I suddenly loved the song it was based on a lot more because of it), and if this show does turn out to be real, and is hated - I feel that a lot of people will take it out in the comercial (I may just be reading too much into it though).
Yeah that commercial is great

The maybe-rumoured-leaked-image is also said to be a basic concept image. But once again all this came from 4chan so for all we know it's one elaborate troll.

If that's the case, I'm okay with a spin off for that reason. I remember the writers saying they'd never put them in the show, as it would be too much of a sudden change and there would be no way to justify it. I'm perfectly okay with bronies creating fanfictions with humans though (though I have never read any*). I understand the notion of humans (appearing side by side with the ponies) potentially working from a story perspective, and Gen 1 kind of proves it can sort of work.

However, the reason it worked in G1 is because the idea of humans was planted from the start - and they worked up until a point. I think that they wanted to establish a bond between their viewers and the ponies (if those humans can be friends with them, then maybe we could one day? - that sort of view), but dropped the idea and focused on ponies. I think it worked for the time being though - I know one of the humans was based on a toy, but since she was older in the show, maybe they only partly based her on the toy?)

*I don't know if I'll ever read a Humans in Equestria fanfiction, but ironically my favorite fanfiction is basically the reverse of it (one of the ponies is sent to our world) it's probably hated, but I love it.
Indeed. I dare say a tastefully done spinoff could be done well.. my friend came up with an interesting idea in that maybe because they've learned so much about friendship they're sent through to a human world to guide others. E.g. one episode might be about a new girl struggling to integrate herself into a new school because she's too shy so maybe Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash go in to help from experience and encouragement angles respectively. And then I figured that they could be Mirror Lake clones, as a way not to interfere with the original show.

I don't tend to read fics. That's a fine place for humans though.

Yeah in G1 they were in there from the start, so it's different. I can totally understand the concept, it just doesn't seem to fit in G4 where the entire world right up to the sun and moon are based on ponies. Maybe they could have humans as a non-dominant species that are just hanging out, like real ponies in our world, but it'd be kind of odd. Easier to just have a separate world (and preferably much like if ponies cross into the human world they transform into humans, the opposite should happen too)