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    if you can't play ff with your eyes blindfolded, then you're doing it wrong.
    maybe in dragon warrior, and maybe in a dungeon
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    When does Cloud eat?
    And yes this I am serious, I hate exersizing I love junk food, and I need to lose 30 lbs.
    Most of my free time when not at adult ed/driving school/entertaining boyfriend, is spent playing ff, so I was wondering how to incorperate the two.

    Yesterday I ate an apple, celery and carrot sticks and then....
    I ruined it with bacon wraps

    bacon is so FATTENING O.O

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    just don't eat junk. eat 40% veggies and 45% protein. the rest is sat fats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceglow View Post
    eat only fruit, nuts and red meat. Nothing which you could not scavenge for. No grain, no dairy (except milk, I'll allow milk), no cereals or bread for sure.
    I'm surprised to be saying it, but I agree with Iceglow. Sort of. You don't need to limit yourself to red meat, and he should have had vegetables in there as well. If you stick to lean meats, vegetables, some fruit, nuts, seeds and oils at every meal and snack you will lose weight. Try eating three meals and three snacks a day involving these food groups. Split them evenly throughout the day. Also, expect to go through carb withdrawl at first and probably start craving breads, cookies, and that sort of thing. You can also work in cheat meals as well. Plan for 10-20% of your meals to be something other than this, whether that's spaghetti, pizza or whatever, or maybe having cookies or brownies some night as a snack. Accept that you won't be eating healthy 100% of the time and plan for it so that when you do cheat, it's not a complete binge and you get back on track with the next meal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iceglow
    It will leave you feeling hungry but thats why you should eat nuts and seeds because they're low in fats (go for unsalted seeds and nuts) but filling.
    If you're eating the right proportions of these things and eating regularly enough you should not feel hungry. Ever. If you do feel hungry well before your next meal or snack then you should play with the portions of what your eating. Try eating fewer vegetables and more nuts, or just add some more vegetables or meat or what have you. Also keep in mind that a good portion size for meat with your meals would be an amount roughly the size of your palm. For snacks, about half that or a little less. Just try to find the portions that work for you and keep you feeling full.

    You can't out train a ty diet so unless you start changing it to something more in line with what I've gone over for the most part you won't get there, or the weight you lose will be a combination of fat and muscle rather than just fat.

    And for the record, you can have bacon for breakfast if you're doing this. Just remember to accompany it with some of the other food groups. I like a bit of a light breakfast myself so I'd generally go with some eggs, a bit of fruit (usually raspberries or an apple) and some almonds. Bacon (and meat in general) is not fattening!

    And if you really need a way to exercise while playing FF because otherwise you won't do it, the best thing you could do is use an exercise bike, or maybe walk on a treadmill. Anything else will make it nearly impossible to see the screen let alone focus on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    I'm surprised to be saying it, but I agree with Iceglow.
    This, this quote here. I am keeping forever. I'm going to treasure this, the day I almost broke Vivi's mental balance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceglow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    I'm surprised to be saying it, but I agree with Iceglow.
    This, this quote here. I am keeping forever. I'm going to treasure this, the day I almost broke Vivi's mental balance
    You make the mistake of assuming I'm not already quite insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceglow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    I'm surprised to be saying it, but I agree with Iceglow.
    This, this quote here. I am keeping forever. I'm going to treasure this, the day I almost broke Vivi's mental balance
    You make the mistake of assuming I'm not already quite insane.
    slightly off topic: Vivi sama how goes your fitness regiment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peegee View Post
    slightly off topic: Vivi sama how goes your fitness regiment?
    Not really where I'd like to be in terms of strength work from dealing with a few injuries over the last few months. I'm currently trying to cut some weight and improve my conditioning while still building up in weight on my strength lifts again and trying to strengthen my injury prone shoulder so I don't hurt it again.

    I did get some impressive personal records during the Crossfit games open though. Ironically, some of those are what basically caused me to hurt my shoulder again, but still good to know that I'm stronger in some aspects and still as fast as ever despite being about 20-25 lbs. heavier than I was a year ago.

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    Is rice good?

    I read something that you need to burn 500 calories a day in order to lose 1 lb a week and that everyone has a Base Metabolic Rate which they burn automatically. I also read it is unhealthy to eat 1000 calories a day, and woman should not drop below 1200 calories a day. I calculated my Base Metabolic rate and it is a bit over 1500 calories a day so with little exersize I would need to only eat 1000 calories a day to lose 1 lb a week so I need to exersize more.

    I dont have a calory counter for exersize so does anyone know about how many calories some exersizes burn (walking, jogging etc) and any exersizes that burn a large number of exersizes.

    I'm thinking of joining a dance class if I can find one (rediculously small town) so hopefully that will help.

    Also I read there are some foods that burn more caloies digesting them than the actually calory count on it, usuing celery as an example, does anyone know other foods like this?

    And how many nuts should I eat? I really dont like nuts and seeds so Im not looking forward to it.

    Apparently, peanut butter is also a good filler?

    Sorry if I am being annoying but I am serious about this. My self esteem is at an all time low

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    Quote Originally Posted by shion View Post
    Is rice good?
    Being a grain it's not ideal, but you could do worse. In the long run I'd rather see people not eating it, but if it's something you like that you can substitute for something worse that you were eating before then go for it. Incremental improvement is always better than none.

    I read something that you need to burn 500 calories a day in order to lose 1 lb a week and that everyone has a Base Metabolic Rate which they burn automatically. I also read it is unhealthy to eat 1000 calories a day, and woman should not drop below 1200 calories a day. I calculated my Base Metabolic rate and it is a bit over 1500 calories a day so with little exersize I would need to only eat 1000 calories a day to lose 1 lb a week so I need to exersize more.

    I dont have a calory counter for exersize so does anyone know about how many calories some exersizes burn (walking, jogging etc) and any exersizes that burn a large number of exersizes.
    The best thing I think you can do, especially starting out with trying to get healthy, is to keep things simple. If you overcomplicate everything too much then it becomes a lot of work that will only make it harder to stick with improving your diet and exercise. So with that in mind, I'd say forget about counting calories for food and exercise right now. If you're eating better foods (again, lean meat, vegetable, fruit, etc.) it will be nearly impossible for you to overeat. Your body will let you know when enough is enough and if you need to eat more. For exercise, again, stay simple. Don't worry about what you're doing and how many calories it burns. Find something you enjoy and just do it. Whether that's hiking through the woods, biking, weight lifting, or the dance classes you mentioned. As long as you enjoy it you'll stick with it and if you don't worry about the calories it burns it won't start to feel like work.

    Just try to do whatever it is you like to do for exercise a few times a week. Whether that involves taking dance classes a few days a week, or just going once a week and practicing at home, or walking other days. Whatever it is, just make the time to do it.

    And how many nuts should I eat? I really dont like nuts and seeds so Im not looking forward to it.
    The actual number you would need to eat is really low to get enough fat in the day. I'm 6'2" and 265 lbs. right now and I'd eat 15 almonds with a meal at most. If you generally don't like nuts and seeds though you can always substitute with avacado, or by using a table spoon or two of olive oil or salad dressing.

    Apparently, peanut butter is also a good filler?
    Peanut butter is something that can be kind of controversial. Technically peanuts are a legume and not a nut and generally are to be avoided, but again, since it's better than cookies and in the interests of keeping things simple I wouldn't say don't eat it, just don't overdo it. Cutting out things like peanut butter and counting grams of protein, carbs, etc. is the sort of thing you can do if you lose some weight and get healthier and decide to take things to a new level in terms of your fitness. For someone just starting out things can easily get too complicated and restricted and it's better to avoid that early on so you stick with it.

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    Peanut butter is a very calorie-dense food; don't eat more than one serving.

    It mostly comes down to calories-in/calories-out. If you count calories for a couple of months, you become much more aware of what you're eating, and it'll change your world.

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    Peanut butter is used a lot by bodybuilders to bulk up; I'd stay away from it if you want to drop weight.

    And losing weight should be as simple as eating better and cutting out most sugars and junk foods. If you exercise you pretty much have to do some form of resistance training or you're going to lose muscle. Your body likes to get rid of muscle before it gets rid of its precious fat deposits.

    EDIT: Another reason I would stay away from counting calories burned during exercise, a lot of people tend to overestimate the amount of calories they actually burned and "reward" themselves with sweets or snacks.
    Last edited by NorthernChaosGod; 06-08-2011 at 08:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shion View Post
    When does Cloud eat?
    Wall Market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shion View Post
    Is rice good?
    In moderation there's nothing wrong with rice, but it's mostly just filler. Not a ton of nutritional value. A lot of people will recommend against carbs like rice in favor of protein and veggies, but I can't live without rice personally. And the Asian diet of rice + veggies works well for a lot of people.

    Quote Originally Posted by shion View Post
    I read something that you need to burn 500 calories a day in order to lose 1 lb a week and that everyone has a Base Metabolic Rate which they burn automatically. I also read it is unhealthy to eat 1000 calories a day, and woman should not drop below 1200 calories a day. I calculated my Base Metabolic rate and it is a bit over 1500 calories a day so with little exersize I would need to only eat 1000 calories a day to lose 1 lb a week so I need to exersize more.
    This is really really simple. To lose weight, you have to burn more calories than you eat. That's it. You don't need to do any special kind of diet, you don't need to overthink it. Just limit your calorie intake, and increase your exercise. Simple.

    If you eat 1500 calories worth of donuts, but you burn 2000 calories, you will still lose weight like this guy. It's just a numbers game. Obviously, that's not a healthy way of going about things. Just an example to illustrate that it really is all about the numbers.

    Quote Originally Posted by shion View Post
    I dont have a calory counter for exersize so does anyone know about how many calories some exersizes burn (walking, jogging etc) and any exersizes that burn a large number of exersizes.

    I'm thinking of joining a dance class if I can find one (rediculously small town) so hopefully that will help.
    This website helped me a ton when I was trying to drop a few pounds. It helps you calculate how many calories you should be eating based on how much weight you want to lose. It helps you track how many calories in virtually every food item you can think of.

    Cardio workouts like dancing is great, but you really need resistance training as well. Check out Jillian Michael's 30 Day Shred. It seriously works.

    Just eat less processed foods. Eat fresh veggies and lean meats. Cook your own food so that you can control how much butter and oil go into things. Eat smaller portions. Be aware of how crazy high the calories are for most eat-out foods. I mean, just one SALAD from California Pizza Kitchen is roughly 1200 calories. Being aware is better than anything. Oh and seriously guzzle water. A lot of people mistake thirst for hunger and eat when they should be drinking. Eliminate soda and sugary drinks from your diet if you can. And don't bother with diet sodas, they're awful for you too.
    Last edited by Miriel; 06-08-2011 at 11:47 PM.

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    during the last few convos with jojo I had, she pointed out that its not as simple as calories in < calories out. the body has impressive adaptability and it manifests in different ways

    ncg is right that you should just live healthy and eat moderately. eventually you will get used to your body

    btw when I eat at maintenance I am always starving. when I eat to lose or gain weight it feels fine

    also I eat at maintenance if I am bad at finances and can't afford to diet. my body is weird

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