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We better win tomorrow.
We probably won't.Normally I'm the kind of person who is optimistic about things. If there is one thing I never am confident about, it's Manchester United winning a Manchester derby. It doesn't matter how good City are or where they are in the league - this game is always anyone's game and I've seen us lose against City at least once or twice long before they began throwing money around. Fingers crossed, though, we'll do the business...
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
We better win tomorrow.
We probably won't.Well I still have faith.
I had a dream last night where after drawing 1-1 for most of the game, United scored in the last minute to win 2-1...I never remember dreams, let alone dreams like that. Granted we were playing away in my dream, but I'm sure it's still going to come true.
I hope so! I'm expecting a draw, but not a "oh, we'll settle for this" draw but a draw in which both teams go for the jugular but neither come out victorious. I seriously hope we win. We CAN win, that I know, obviously. We SHOULD win.We better win tomorrow.
We probably won't.
I had a dream last night where after drawing 1-1 for most of the game, United scored in the last minute to win 2-1...I never remember dreams, let alone dreams like that. Granted we were playing away in my dream, but I'm sure it's still going to come true.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
The result will depend upon whether Ferguson uses his defensive 4-5-1 from last week. Oh, and whether it's Premier League or Champions League City that turn up.
So like, I played the game on FIFA 12 this morning as Man City and was gonna post about it here, but it ended, and I tit you not, 6-1. I thought "Nah that's too unrealistic a score I should crank up the difficulty now". FIFA 12 is the most realistic football simulator of all time!
The tabloid press will hype this up as CITY TO WIN THE LEAGUE FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS but it's still a long season and the gap is just 5 points. Today might or might not be the start of a revobluetion, but what I do know is that it was prime comedy.
I am seriously offended. One, because we shipped a goal against the likes of Darren Fletcher, which is disgusting play. Must do better next time. Two, how dare you failures at life act like you're all that "I expect a draw" "oh we'll score a late goal to win" get the smurf out of my thread. Not fit to lace our boots, know your god damn place. You're alright when you're minnow bashing the little lads like Arsenal, but when you're up against a bit of class, well, you see the results. Back in your holes boys.
you can't diss BoB and Crop dude, they're probably City fans now that United aren't #1 anymore.
Worst ever defeat since the 50's. Bloody hell.
Evans stopped us from winning that match. Evra lost the match for us. I don't know what he was told to do in this game, but if SAF told him to be absent at left back, he did that pretty well. Seriously - check his positioning for every one of the last five goals. What happened to him? Our attacking wasn't actually all that bad and our possession in the first half was high. But in defence, we just suffered - and badly. I think we have okay centre backs, more than okay. But we need a defensive set of fullbacks because ever since we sold O'Shea, we've been tit in those positions. Smalling has been okay. Rafael and Fabio are incredibly injury-prone and while good against teams like Arsenal and to be honest, I'd expect them to hold their own against Barcelona, City and Chelsea on the odd occasion, okay. But not every game. We need a defensive, reliable set of fullbacks - tall ones, if possible. Never thought I'd say it a few years ago, but I think it's time we sold Evra. We need fullbacks, and the sooner the better.
City ripped us to shreds in the second half and they did it down the right flank.
And yeah, Evans, done it before and will do it again. We have Vidic, Rio, Smalling and Jones. Why is Evans playing when he's prone to this sort of thing? When he's last defender, I expect him to do something bad, and that's not a good thing. All the other players could have done better, but those two, argh.
Credit to City and credit to Mancini. He found our weakness and punished us completely. I'd be even more gutted about the game but I'm still on a bit of a high from the Rugby World Cup. =]
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
"David Silva football."
"If do right, no can defense."
there was a picture here
Ouch...that smarts. There's nothing I can even say, we just got drummed.
Still, early in the season and we'll see them again....but argh that was bad.
City are the plague of football and represent everything that is wrong with the sport. They outplayed us, certainly, but with an out of form 10 men United team chasing a game against the likes of superstars what do you expect. Jonny Evans - been saying it for years that he is truly not good enough at this level and we always concede goals when he is playing. Come the end of the year I'm still confident of finishing top.
EDIT: Also forgot to say, smurf Mancini. He was fistpumping & laughing at 6-1. Did you see Fergie doing similar when we were trashing Arsenal? Bit much now.
Last edited by Rocket Edge; 10-23-2011 at 06:34 PM.
You do realise which football club made English football into the commercial money-focused for-profit venture that it is today, right? United have been doing this to the rest of us for 20 odd years, buying players with ridiculous money that nobody else has and inflating the prices so that teams have to pay £20-35m for average English players! If City, and indeed Chelsea are a plague, they are one that United created. I have no sympathy when someone beats you at your own game.
The basis of us having money in the first place is because we started winning things 20 years ago. What did City do? History clearly means a lot less nowadays.
We need more butthurt!
there was a picture here
Does your money come from actually winning things, ie, prize money, or does it come from being a global marketing brand like McDonald's or Sony? Who were Man United before Man United? Liverpool! Were the Liverpool of the 1970's and 80's raking in hundreds of millions of pounds from being a global brand and using those millions to buy players at ridiculous sums? I honestly wish football was commercialised back then as we'd probably still be in control now, and not be the mid-to-upper table team that I know and love.
The English Premium: A 2011 Transfer Price Index Review | Pay As You Play here's a lovely article! It uses a transfer price index using inflation and whatnot. I don't really know the maths but it shows how relatively expensive a transfer is. What I do know is that the two most expensive English footballers are Wayne Rooney and Rio Ferdinand, who in today's money are worth £62m and £61m respectively. Next come Shearer and Wright-Phillips, and rounding off the top five is Michael Carrick at £41m. United have been doing this for years - hell, Andy Cole in 1995 is £33m today! (i wish we had bought that andy c instead of the one we have!) I imagine the foreign table will be topped by the likes of Veron and Van Nistelrooy too but I can't find it anywhere.
To me, finishing 3rd or 4th is all I hope for, perhaps a good cup run. The league? Ha ha, not on your life matey. What does it matter to me if the annual tonking is handed out to us by United, City or Chelsea? They're all teams that financially piss all over us and we have no hope of being able to compete with right now. If not in transfer fees, where we don't do terribly, then definitely in wages, which is also Arsenal's problem. Look how much money we've had to splurge on the likes of Andy Carroll and Jordan Henderson just to keep up with sodding Spurs! I'm sure we could've bought someone better for that money, but underneath the surface could we afford their wages? I doubt it. And the funny thing is, we're supposed to be one of the richer clubs too, so I shudder to think how it is for the midtable and relegation teams. Other than Everton. Ha ha ha, smurf Everton!But yeah, you're all the same thing really, but at least City are somebody new.
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