They didn't wipe out magic. It's just gone from their world.
They didn't wipe out magic. It's just gone from their world.
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Well considering the only known source of magic is gone and the game never mentions if there are others that can do it, then yeah... I would say magic is gone for good.
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No man, Maudin said he had to leave this world, he didn't say anything about being wiped out forever. And espers can't exist without magic.
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He didn't say they were traveling somewhere either:
Considering the Magicite you have is literally turning to dust in your party's hand. I would say that killing the Warring Triad took out the remaining espers and their magicite as well. Hell, in an old V-Jump interview, the Kitase, Sakaguchi, and Saga, revealed that Terra was meant to share the fate of the espers but decided that was going too far and didn't want to give the game a downer ending, so they gave her a Disney Death instead. So I would say, that "disappear" and "fade" in this context means to cease to exist.Maduin: Terra... We must part now. We espers will disappear from this world. You may fade away as well...
Maduin: But perhaps if the human part of you feels something strong enough , then maybe... just maybe you will be able to remain here as a human.
So in order for an FFVI sequel to have magic, they would need a new set of beings like the Warring Triad.
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Or that the warring triad wasn't really the source of magic, but just the conduit that allows it to manifest itself in our reality. Remove the warring triad and any physical manifestation of magic disappears, but the essence of magic itself is just as intrinsic to our universe as everything else.
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Considering how FFVI treats magic as an unnatural force, I would argue it's not some intrinsic force of the universe. At least not their universe, if we're going into baseless hypothetical metaphysics.
As far as we know, magic didn't exist until the Warring Triad came into the picture, so I have a hard time believing that magic is an intrisnic force of nature, that Espers and the Warring Traid simply made available. Granted, there is very little known about the VI world before the War of the Magi, even the world/character guide books start the timeline during the war, and says very little. So it is possible people knew about magic before the Warring Triad appeared but we'll never know.
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Yeah, well, if magic came into being with the warring triad, who created the warring triad? Couldn't another warring triad just be made?
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You are assuming they were made. They are originally translated as gods, so yeah...
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Who created the gods?
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I think the point is, nothing. The concept of gods is that they are there from the start. You don't just create gods. gods are what create you. Except in Soviet Russia.
Forward, the Light Brigade!'
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho'(though) the soldiers knew
Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.
We have a winner!I think the point is, nothing. The concept of gods is that they are there from the start. You don't just create gods. gods are what create you. Except in Soviet Russia.
True beauty exists in things that last only for a moment.
Current Mood: And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe. Maybe this year will be better than the last. I can't remember all the times I tried to tell myself. To hold on to these moments as they pass...
I'm so special...We have a winner!
Forward, the Light Brigade!'
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho'(though) the soldiers knew
Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.
Are the warring triad the only gods? Were they first? Did they have ultimate power over everything, or just "magic", whatever that is.
everything is wrapped in gray
i'm focusing on your image
can you hear me in the void?
If magic isn't an intrinsic property of the universe that means that the Triad can't have always have existed as part of the universe, as they are distinctly separate from it.
And I think it is a recurring theme in Final Fantasy that just because something claims to be a god doesn't necessarily mean it is.
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