If Terra was meant to have blonde hair...

[Mirage]

That first part is a good point!

[the_best_noob]

If magic isn't an intrinsic property of the universe that means that the Triad can't have always have existed as part of the universe, as they are distinctly separate from it.

And I think it is a recurring theme in Final Fantasy that just because something claims to be a god doesn't necessarily mean it is.

In that game, it said that the warring triad were 3 gods of magic. This is the one of the few times the game distinctly pronounces someone(or thing) to be gods. Kefka was not a true god because he became a god. He was just as powerful as a god. Think of it this way. If the gods are removed, what they controlled is removed. Analogy Time!!!My way to put this into human terms is; If your heater is removed from your house, you will have no heat. This doesn't mean that the heater wasn't built into the house at the beginning. I do like your point. This is one of the better debates I've had on this forum.

[VeloZer0]

But the heater was put there by something, so removing it doesn't mean there can never be another heater. It just means there is no heat for now. The electricity just works, you just need a new heater to transfer the already existing electricity into something tangible you can use like heat.

And it was just one of the characters who said that they were gods. But really how would any of of them know? They were just parroting what they had been told. Obviously if they were killed they couldn't have been all that godly.

[ReloadPsi]

it can be difficult to discern which is Terra and which is Celes by going on their faces alone.

Depending on who did the artwork it can be pretty difficult to discern many FF characters on faces alone.

[the_best_noob]

But the heater was put there by something, so removing it doesn't mean there can never be another heater. It just means there is no heat for now. The electricity just works, you just need a new heater to transfer the already existing electricity into something tangible you can use like heat.

And it was just one of the characters who said that they were gods. But really how would any of of them know? They were just parroting what they had been told. Obviously if they were killed they couldn't have been all that godly.

They theoretically weren't killed. Just sapped of their powers and made useless. Just like the espers. You do have a very good point. Good job on taking the analogy deeper then I was thinking. There were 2 magical creatures. The espers and whatever the hell the warring triad was. The espers created Terra and all the mages of Thamasa. The espers source of magic was the warring triad, who had no source of magic other then themselves (Gods have no source of power, which is why kefka was not a god.) When Kefka sapped the power out of the warring triad and was killed, the espers and Terra's and Thamasa's mages powers were gone. The espers life force is magic, so when you take it away, they die. When the ultimate source of magic that as no source it taken away, you lose all magic, never to be recovered again. Going deeper on the analogy, if you take away everything that supplies electricity(yes, that would include lightning), How are you going to power the heater even if you get another one?

[Wolf Kanno]

In Japan's mythology, gods can be killed, this isn't the western Judeo-Christian "omnipotent" variety of god. Think of them more like ancient polytheistic deities, like the Greek or Egyptian Pantheons. It's very plausible that they are actual gods in terms of the Ancient Worldview. I mean they turned themselves to stone and yet were still "alive" and affecting the world. There power is also enough to tear the surface of a planet apart when it's just seeping out of them unfocused. In truth, we never actually do get to see the full potential of the Warring Triad since their first awakening is simply the overflow of their power being knocked out of balance, and later Kefka is only using part of his power to torture the world.

Part of the issue here is that the Woosely script kind of screws things up, because his script mentions that their are other beings like the Warring Triad, where as the Japanese and GBA scripts downplay that entirely. Simply stating the Warring Triad feared each other's powers and went to war. As far as they are concerned, they are the only three sources of magic. Magic could only return in a sequel if it was revealed that there was more beings like the Warring Triad and if they possessed the power of magic as well.

Honestly, I feel that would cheapen the whole story of VI if a sequel came out and it just involved a new Warring Triad showing up and making humanity repeat another War of the Magi. I actually really like the finality of VI, in terms of being a fantasy story.

[the_best_noob]

Honestly, I feel that would cheapen the whole story of VI if a sequel came out and it just involved a new Warring Triad showing up and making humanity repeat another War of the Magi. I actually really like the finality of VI, in terms of being a fantasy story.

That's what I was trying to say. They sealed the story completely so there could not be a sequel EXCEPT for an exact repeat of the story.